DSMB inflate in cold water - purging

Alasdair Allan wrote:
> Jason wrote:
>> It's probably the only piece of kit that I have that Pete and Al also
>> use. Apart from a DSMBi, I don't think I have any other piece of kit
>> the same as them, possibly one of my reels.
>
> You know, I think you're right, I can't think of any other piece of
> kit that we have in common to be honest. How odd.

Faber 7L steels?
Trying to remember...

nigelH

Alasdair Allan wrote:

>
> Nope, I use Aluminium stages, both Jason and Pete use Steel, if I remember
> correctly...

I don't think so. Most peeps use ally 7's...

> Oh! Apek's regs, we all have lots of TX40's I guess...

Or TX50's....

- Keith

Keith S. wrote:
> Alasdair Allan wrote:
> > Nope, I use Aluminium stages, both Jason and Pete use Steel, if I
> > remember correctly...
>
> I don't think so. Most peeps use ally 7's...

Hmm, I don't know. Hang on...

Yes, you're right, just found a picture with Jason weighed down by a
couple of Aluminium stages. I still think Pete uses Steel though. Pete?

Can't seem to find a picture, all the recent ones are of him with yellow
box, sans stages.

> > Oh! Apek's regs, we all have lots of TX40's I guess...
>
> Or TX50's....

....and both Pete and I still use them, even when we're not carrying
stages, since both our yellow boxes are Apeks 1st staged.

Al.

Jason wrote:
> It's probably the only piece of kit that I have that Pete and Al also
> use. Apart from a DSMBi, I don't think I have any other piece of kit the
> same as them, possibly one of my reels.

*shake head*

No you and I have the same reel, but Pete doesn't have the same one...

You know, I think you're right, I can't think of any other piece of kit
that we have in common to be honest. How odd.

Al.

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:36:12 +0000, Keith S. wrote:

> I don't think so. Most peeps use ally 7's...

Yes I use ally tanks for stages. I've even got an ally 3l. Don't know why,
I never use it. And I even had it O2 cleaned last year.

>> Oh! Apek's regs, we all have lots of TX40's I guess...
>
> Or TX50's....

Yeah, most of mine are TX50s. I think it's worth the extra 9 quid to get
the extra adjustment.

But my point is that of those of us who are supposed to agree on
everything, there's a wide range of kit and opinions. Hey, I've even got a
Transpac. And a Dive Rite wing with a gusset cord.

Jason

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??>> round the side. What appears to be the common denominator amongst the
??>> slob knob users I have spoken to is they think the risk of not being
??>> able to operate the isolator fast enough is greater than the risk of
??>> the slob knob breaking...and their buddy can always operate the
??>> knurled ring if it

J> But speed is of the essence when turning off your gas.

The argument would be, when a slob knob works it is faster. So you'r back to
a compromise between convenience (speed) and complexity.

J> Oh come on. You don't need to just breath into the bag. You have to get
J> about the right amount of air into it,

So breathe out twice.

J> hold the reel and then release it.

Exactly the same as a DSMBi

J> That also requires some coordination.

You could take pretty much as long as you want between each stage and it
would have no effect on the outcome, other than it taking longer.

J> It's not just a matter of breathing into a bag.

It is for me. If you don't find it as easy as a DSMBi then fine. I am not
going to presume to tell you what you are and are not good at.

J> Not that it's particularly hard, I just find a DSMBi less hassle. I
J> still use a manual one every now and then, mainly on second dives
J> because I can't be bothered to refill the bottle.

??>> Anyhow I think we have demonstrated adequately what I said at the
??>> beginning.

J> Which I think was the point of your posts.

So why did you not say that much earlier and saved us all a lot of time.
Sorry Jason I am not at all interested in playing games on here. You get
what I honestly think, that is it.

J> You deliberatedly trolled so so could could prove your point about a
J> group of people ganging up.

Oh yes I missed the 'troll' accusation from my list.

Go read the thread from the start. I twice declined to get drawn into this.
I have attempted at each post to provide a way to leave the subject
gracefully. Not exactly troll behaviour is it. But no, I don't like anyone
telling me what I should think.

J> And you chose your target well.

And the CIA shot Kennedy no doubt!

J> It's
J> probably the only piece of kit that I have that Pete and Al also use.
J> Apart from a DSMBi, I don't think I have any other piece of kit the same
J> as them, possibly one of my reels.

Over the years you have had kit in common and it comes across as some sort
of approved list. Not quite DIR, but not exactly open minded either. You
probably disagree. Maybe I am wrong. Whatever.

How about we leave it and just try to be pleasant next time we meet on a
boat somewhere.

Regards
Matt

Alasdair Allan <aa@ukrecscuba.org.uk> writes:

>> > Jason wrote:
>> > > It's probably the only piece of kit that I have that Pete and Al
>> > > also use. Apart from a DSMBi, I don't think I have any other piece
>> > > of kit the same as them, possibly one of my reels.

Which Pete? The woods are full of them.

Besides the DSMBi Jason, you will be delighted to hear that I've just
bought a Cochrane Commander Nx, now all I need are some tips about how
to cut the slots in it so that it will fit on the weightbelt.

>Nope, I use Aluminium stages, both Jason and Pete use Steel, if I remember
>correctly...

I use Aluminium. Tried steels once, when I didn't know any better.
I do now.

>Oh! Apek's regs, we all have lots of TX40's I guess...

Yup. Well, TX50s, US4s, but the're all basically the same thing.

Pete

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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:09:18 +0000, matts wrote:

> J> hold the reel and then release it.
>
> Exactly the same as a DSMBi

Not really. You can hold the whole thing including the reel in one hand.
Turn the cylinder on and just let go of the DSMB.
>
> So why did you not say that much earlier and saved us all a lot of time.
> Sorry Jason I am not at all interested in playing games on here. You get
> what I honestly think, that is it.

In hindsight, I probably should have started ignoring it when you brought
slob knobs into the discussion

> Oh yes I missed the 'troll' accusation from my list.

You also missed the "you're just saying that to agree with your mates"
accusation. It's just as bad.

> Over the years you have had kit in common and it comes across as some sort
> of approved list. Not quite DIR, but not exactly open minded either. You
> probably disagree. Maybe I am wrong. Whatever.

Oh come off it. On DIR mailing lists they have discussions about how long
to the nearest inch your inflator hose should be and what the right type
of bungee is.

We both used Apeks regs, but since they're one of the most common
makes of reg in the UK, big deal. And we also dived a twinset with a
backplate and wing. Since this is the most common configuration for trimix
divers, this isn't exactly surprising, is it? On non-UKRS trimix boats
I've been on, they've also got pretty much the same thing.

There is no approved list. There are a lot of twinsets on UKRS trips, but
that's the nature of a lot of the diving, plus people on here do seem
somewhat kit obsessed, but in the course of a season, you'll find just
about every make of wing and backplate, plus a smattering of Transpacs and
other wing BCDs on UKRS trips.

Jason

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Jason wrote:

> There is no approved list. There are a lot of twinsets on UKRS trips, but
> that's the nature of a lot of the diving, plus people on here do seem
> somewhat kit obsessed, but in the course of a season, you'll find just
> about every make of wing and backplate, plus a smattering of Transpacs and
> other wing BCDs on UKRS trips.

Hey! Don't forget my Custard Divers bungeed wing. On second thoughts,
maybe not...

Thing is, there are some things that you try and you'll never want to be
without them again. The AP DSMBi is one of those things, a simple yet
brilliant bit of kit, easy to use and guaranteed to work (providing you
fill it... but then you do check your tanks are full before jumping in,
so why should the dsmb bottle be any different?)

- Keith

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:23:41 +0000, Keith S. wrote:

> Hey! Don't forget my Custard Divers bungeed wing. On second thoughts,
> maybe not...

Have you got it on your KISS? I don't think I've ever seen your KISS. You
want to bring it down to the Somerset Rivera. Hopefully should get my
digital adaptor for my camera by the weekend, so I'll be itching to take
some pics.

Jason
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