PADI "sanctioned CPR program"

After getting stuck on diving last summer, I was thinking of doing a
PADI Rescue Diver course around Easter once the skiing season is over
-perhaps on a trip to the Red Sea. One of the prerequisites to this
course is that you must have "completed a sanctioned CPR training course
within the past 24 months".

What counts as a sanctioned CPR program?

I'd like to do the cheapest (and fastest) course that will give me a
"sanctioned" CPR certificate to show the dive school. I don't actually
need to be taught CPR - it's something I am expected to handle on a
daily basis - but I guess I will need a certificate.
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David Mahon

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:34:19 +0000, David Mahon <news@amigo.co.uk>
wrote:

>I'd like to do the cheapest (and fastest) course that will give me a
>"sanctioned" CPR certificate to show the dive school. I don't actually
>need to be taught CPR - it's something I am expected to handle on a
>daily basis - but I guess I will need a certificate.

My advice: ask your local St John Ambulance (or St Andrews / Red
Cross) branch for their course prices. They're usually more than
helpful. They're also highly competent...
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ferret
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"David Mahon" <news@amigo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> After getting stuck on diving last summer, I was thinking of doing a
> PADI Rescue Diver course around Easter once the skiing season is over
> -perhaps on a trip to the Red Sea.

Wimp!

http://divesite.calumscott.me.uk/ukr.../completed.htm

Seriously though, you won't regret it - it is possibly the best course (and
not just diving) I've ever done.

> One of the prerequisites to this
> course is that you must have "completed a sanctioned CPR training course
> within the past 24 months".

Normally the dive school will package the RD course with "Emergency First
Response" which is CPR, and some secondary first aid. A few of the guys
from the course are going back to Wittering to do it on Saturday... other
wise we don't get our RD cards!

> What counts as a sanctioned CPR program?

I'll dig out the book later and have a look for you.

> I'd like to do the cheapest (and fastest) course that will give me a
> "sanctioned" CPR certificate to show the dive school. I don't actually
> need to be taught CPR - it's something I am expected to handle on a
> daily basis - but I guess I will need a certificate

In what capacity do you handle CPR on a daily basis? If it is work related
then you will already have a certificate or qualification to satisfy the
HSE, yes?

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:41:46 +0000, ferret <ferret@cruelmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:34:19 +0000, David Mahon <news@amigo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>I'd like to do the cheapest (and fastest) course that will give me a
>>"sanctioned" CPR certificate to show the dive school. I don't actually
>>need to be taught CPR - it's something I am expected to handle on a
>>daily basis - but I guess I will need a certificate.
>
>My advice: ask your local St John Ambulance (or St Andrews / Red
>Cross) branch for their course prices. They're usually more than
>helpful. They're also highly competent...
>--
And if you do the full St Johns thingy, You will get a lot more than
the sanitised PADI course, for less money.

And, IIRC, it is a "First Aid at Work", qualification, which the PADI
one aint.

Pete S.

> "David Mahon" <news@amigo.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> > What counts as a sanctioned CPR program?


IIRC you hae to demonstrate evidence of 'recent (last 2 years)
CPR and AV Training.

The EFR Course is not a patch on a St Johns or Red Cross course!

I tend to do mine over about 10 weeks one evening a week.

Well worth doing and not just for diving.

HTH

DaveA


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(Pete S.) wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:41:46 +0000, ferret <ferret@cruelmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:34:19 +0000, David Mahon <news@amigo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I'd like to do the cheapest (and fastest) course that will give me a
>>>"sanctioned" CPR certificate to show the dive school. I don't actually
>>>need to be taught CPR - it's something I am expected to handle on a
>>>daily basis - but I guess I will need a certificate.
>>
>>My advice: ask your local St John Ambulance (or St Andrews / Red
>>Cross) branch for their course prices. They're usually more than
>>helpful. They're also highly competent...
>>--
> And if you do the full St Johns thingy, You will get a lot more than
> the sanitised PADI course, for less money.
>
> And, IIRC, it is a "First Aid at Work", qualification, which the PADI
> one aint.

Red Cross and St John do several different first aid courses. The basic
first aid is the one that covers pretty much everything and is relativley
cheap, one thing it does not give you is first aid at work.

The first aid at work course covers far less than the basic first aid,
however it does give you the relevant tick in the box for being a first
aider at work. The cost of the at work cert is far higher than the basic,
even though it covers less. This is because they feel that they can make
more money out of companies than individuals/charities. Not something I
personally have a problem with.

I haven't done the PADI course but I suspect that it covers about the same
as the at work qualification, but without the at work cert.

If you want a quick course just to get you through the rescue the PADI
course is okay, if you want a better (and probably cheaper) course that
takes a little longer go for the basic first aid.

One thing to be aware of is that the Red cross and St John courses require
renewal every 3 years, the PADI course is 2 years, if you are Red cross/St
John quilified and in date, it will not be enough for the rescue if it is
2-3 years old.

HTH

Any other questions???

Danny

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Danny Burchett <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>If you want a quick course just to get you through the rescue the PADI
>course is okay, if you want a better (and probably cheaper) course that

>takes a little longer go for the basic first aid.

I just need a certificate that I can present (overseas) to a diving school
that they will accept no questions asked and allow me to complete the rescue
diver course. I don't actually need any training though I expect I will have
to sit through it.

I am a surgeon, am an advanced trauma and life support provider (though the
certificate is more than 2 years old). I do CPR at work on occasion, though
I prefer my patients to be a little more healthy generally. I can open a
chest and give internal cardiac massage if you like. But I need a certificate
that will be accepted, worldwide, dated within 2 years. So I need to know
what PADI mean by "sanctioned".

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David Mahon
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On 22 Jan 2004 12:47:47 GMT, "David Mahon" <news@amigo.co.uk> wrote:

>I am a surgeon, am an advanced trauma and life support provider (though the
>certificate is more than 2 years old). I do CPR at work on occasion, though
>I prefer my patients to be a little more healthy generally. I can open a
>chest and give internal cardiac massage if you like. But I need a certificate
>that will be accepted, worldwide, dated within 2 years. So I need to know
>what PADI mean by "sanctioned".

Bloody medics. If only you'd said...

I'd still get your arse down the St John. Tell them what you know and
who you are. It'd be done cheaply and quickly, I've no doubt.

PADI's idea of 'sanctioned' is fairly vague, given that its own MFA
course is so diluted...
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ferret
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David Mahon wrote:

> I am a surgeon, am an advanced trauma and life support provider
> (though the certificate is more than 2 years old). I do CPR at work
> on occasion, though I prefer my patients to be a little more healthy
> generally. I can open a chest and give internal cardiac massage if
> you like. But I need a certificate that will be accepted, worldwide,
> dated within 2 years. So I need to know what PADI mean by
> "sanctioned".

Hell, just find whoever provides training the public, show them your
credentials and ask them if they'll provide you with a certificate.
Sometimes the "rules" just make no sense at all. When that happens, you can
work to change them (can be a major PITA), or you can find a way around
them. In your case, I suggest the latter.

Lee

"ferret" <ferret@cruelmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> PADI's idea of 'sanctioned' is fairly vague, given that its own MFA
> course is so diluted...

Errm and it doesn't have anymore - it's the EFR course (Emergency First
Responce) as in *first aid* - not open heart surgery - keep up ferret.