Apeks TX and ATX regs...

I've finally decided that it's time to put my old Oceanic regs out to
pasture so I'm now looking to replace them with two sets of Apeks regs. As
I'll be running them on a twinset, I've kinda settled on the DS4 first
stages rather than the flashier DST with its lovely 'point of failure'
swivel (not to mention that hose routing seems a lot tidier with the DS4)
but I can't make my mind up which second stages to go for.

I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's but I can't make up my
mind whether it's worth the extra cash to go for the more compact ATX second
stages. Anyone have anything good/bad/indifferent to say about the ATX
second stages compared to their TX counterparts?

With a bit of shopping around and the odd online discount voucher, I think I
can get 2 sets of ATX50s with 2 DS4 first stages for a little less than £380
which seemed pretty good to me!

> I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's

Out of interest, why do you want the second adjustable reg? Why not get your
primary set up the way you want it and leave it that way and have an
adjustable backup to limit the chance of free-flow while still allowing you
to dial its performance up as needed?

Can't help you with the TX/ATX question, as I've not used the latter 2nd
stages.

Iain

"Iain Smith" <iainmsmith@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's
>
> Out of interest, why do you want the second adjustable reg? Why not get
your
> primary set up the way you want it and leave it that way and have an
> adjustable backup to limit the chance of free-flow while still allowing
you
> to dial its performance up as needed?

To be honest, I was thinking exactly the same thing. I'll probably end up
going for a 40 as the backup regulator...

Bardo wrote:
> "Iain Smith" wrote
>>> I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's
>>
>> Out of interest, why do you want the second adjustable reg? Why not
>> get your primary set up the way you want it and leave it that way
>> and have an adjustable backup to limit the chance of free-flow while
>> still allowing you to dial its performance up as needed?
>
> To be honest, I was thinking exactly the same thing. I'll probably
> end up going for a 40 as the backup regulator...

*shrug*
My twinset has r 50s and I swap them round regularly. The primary
is wide open and the secondary wound up tight. If I end up
breathing the secondary it only takes a moment to ease off the
breathing resistance but its resistance to freeflow is much better
and hanging mouth piece up encourages it. That's why I prefer 50s.

nigelH

"Bardo" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Iain Smith" <iainmsmith@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:1StWb.3573$vo1.2896@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
> > > I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's
> >
> > Out of interest, why do you want the second adjustable reg? Why not get
> your
> > primary set up the way you want it and leave it that way and have an
> > adjustable backup to limit the chance of free-flow while still allowing
> you
> > to dial its performance up as needed?
>
> To be honest, I was thinking exactly the same thing. I'll probably end up
> going for a 40 as the backup regulator...

Give me back the cards stroke boy

/F

"Frank Bruce" <fbruce@cruelmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Bardo" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:c0dv6s$151n91$1@ID-115313.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Iain Smith" <iainmsmith@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:1StWb.3573$vo1.2896@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
> > > > I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's
> > >
> > > Out of interest, why do you want the second adjustable reg? Why not
get
> > your
> > > primary set up the way you want it and leave it that way and have an
> > > adjustable backup to limit the chance of free-flow while still
allowing
> > you
> > > to dial its performance up as needed?
> >
> > To be honest, I was thinking exactly the same thing. I'll probably end
up
> > going for a 40 as the backup regulator...
>
> Give me back the cards stroke boy

Hehe. <hangs head in shame>

I have ATX40 for my second and TX50 for my mail. I prefer the TX50 as
it seems chunkier and better built - the ATX40 seems less robust.
That said, I haven't had any problems with it and it is much smaller
so fits under my chin nicely. I like the ability to dial up and down
the resistance on the TX50 (for 4oC diving in Wraysbury), and if I
could choose again, I'd probably get an TX50 for my main and ATX50 for
backup.

I should say this is not on a twin set. The TX50 is on my main
cylinder and the ATX40 is on my pony bungeed under my chin

> I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's but I can't make up my
> mind whether it's worth the extra cash to go for the more compact ATX second
> stages. Anyone have anything good/bad/indifferent to say about the ATX
> second stages compared to their TX counterparts?

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:10:07 -0000, "Bardo" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>I've finally decided that it's time to put my old Oceanic regs out to
>pasture so I'm now looking to replace them with two sets of Apeks regs. As
>I'll be running them on a twinset, I've kinda settled on the DS4 first
>stages rather than the flashier DST with its lovely 'point of failure'
>swivel (not to mention that hose routing seems a lot tidier with the DS4)
>but I can't make my mind up which second stages to go for.
>
>I think I've kinda settled on a pair of TX/ATX50's but I can't make up my
>mind whether it's worth the extra cash to go for the more compact ATX second
>stages. Anyone have anything good/bad/indifferent to say about the ATX
>second stages compared to their TX counterparts?
>
>With a bit of shopping around and the odd online discount voucher, I think I
>can get 2 sets of ATX50s with 2 DS4 first stages for a little less than £380
>which seemed pretty good to me!
>

For back gas, (with a twin set) I use Apeks DS-4's. I like these very
much, and they seem to be pretty much bullet proof. I normally use a
TX-50 for my primary (main) and a TX-40 for my backup, and I'm also
very happy with these and would recommend them highly. Recently,
however, I used an ATX-50 for my primary for a cave dive at Little
River in Florida. I had been using the TX-50 on other dives that
weekend, and, surprisingly, I couldn't tell much difference between
the TX and ATX 2nds. They both breathed about the same at depth (~30m)
and were about the same to use. I also didn't notice any more bubble
interference when using the ATX-50. I think you'll probably like the
ATX or TX 2nd stages very much.

-bob