OT. BT Midband

"rnf2" <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
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> "Graham Bowers" <graham@nospam.frzzserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > Having been turned down for ADSL again (too far from the exchange) I'm
> > considering BT midband.
> > Anybody in here tried it and have comments please??
> > Cheers
> > Graham
> > header is munged. replace nospam with bbowers36 and correct obvious
> spelling
> > mistake
> >
> >
>
> Aren't there any reasonably priced sattelite offerings? you just need a
56K
> dialup to send your reqests for data and the ISP sends the data via
1Mb/Sec
> or greater microwave sattelite from orbit.
>
> rhys
>
I'd simply assumed satellite would be too expensive but you prompted me to
look, and I was surprised that there are acceptably priced providers. I'll
need to do a lot of reading as I know nothing about satellite comms, but
It'll be fun.
Thanks
Graham

> Or rather than BT midband, just get HomeHighway and a BT Together package,
> then look for Surftime/AnyTime ISPs and juggle the figures until you
> find something thats affordable. My home backup (to the WiFi broaband)
> is a 24/7 ISDN (Home Highway) line via Demon, but thats expensive, and
> I'm probably going to cancel my Surftime/Anytime and Demon accounts soon
> and go back to an 0845 ISDN dialup if I need it)
>
> Gordon

Midband is a much better option than plain Home Highway at the moment - take
off £25 for the Home Highway part of the package, the "Midband ISP" part is
£10 a month, for 24*7 access with 150 hour cap + channel bonding. Surftime
(using BT Openworld) is £14 total for evening/weekend only, 120 hour cap, no
channel bonding. BT Openworld 24*7 is £17, although cheaper for the first 3
months - again, 150 hour cap, no channel bonding.
If you have Home Highway, there's very little that competes with Midband,
no-one other than BT has an interest in pushing residential ISDN services.

Hi There,

I have had Midband since it's launch back in June as I am also unable to
get ADSL then or for that matter even now as I live out in the sticks. I
find the product great to use and as I am unable to receive ADSL it is
such a giant leap forward from your bog standard 56k modem. It connects
in about 4-5 seconds and the value for money is excellent as I am not
only able to have a max connection speed of 128kps, I also have two
phone lines which is really helpful as I do work from home a lot and do
not like giving my main home number out. The way the system knows when I
need more download speed and dynamically raises the 2nd channel
automatically giving me a 128kps connection is a real treat. It will
also drop the 2nd channel reverting me back to a 64kps connection when I
no longer need the faster connection speed. The call bumping feature for
incoming calls is very cute. If I am currently running at a speed of
128kps and I need to make an outgoing call I just simply pick up the
telephone receiver and the 2nd channel is dropped and I immediately have
a dial tone. Once I have finished my conversation, I replace the
receiver and if I still need the faster connection speed the application
will dynamically raise the second channel after a short time. I am also
able to "hold" the connection speed at 64k if I am expecting an incoming
call. As I like playing online games across the internet I find 64kps
more than adequate to do this. If you have not yet got it and are still
unable to receive ADSL I would highly recommend it.


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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:15:48 +0000, mitchf
<mitchf.14aovb@forums.deeperblue.net> wrote:

>
>I have had Midband since it's launch back in June as I am also unable to
>get ADSL then or for that matter even now as I live out in the sticks. I
>find the product great to use and as I am unable to receive ADSL it is
>such a giant leap forward from your bog standard 56k modem. It connects
>in about 4-5 seconds and the value for money is excellent as I am not
>only able to have a max connection speed of 128kps, I also have two
>phone lines which is really helpful as I do work from home a lot and do
>not like giving my main home number out. The way the system knows when I
>need more download speed and dynamically raises the 2nd channel
>automatically giving me a 128kps connection is a real treat. It will
>also drop the 2nd channel reverting me back to a 64kps connection when I
>no longer need the faster connection speed. The call bumping feature for
>incoming calls is very cute. If I am currently running at a speed of
>128kps and I need to make an outgoing call I just simply pick up the
>telephone receiver and the 2nd channel is dropped and I immediately have
>a dial tone. Once I have finished my conversation, I replace the
>receiver and if I still need the faster connection speed the application
>will dynamically raise the second channel after a short time. I am also
>able to "hold" the connection speed at 64k if I am expecting an incoming
>call. As I like playing online games across the internet I find 64kps
>more than adequate to do this. If you have not yet got it and are still
>unable to receive ADSL I would highly recommend it.
>
>

Be aware that the call bumping ONLY works for outgoing calls. If you
are using all the 128 connection (ISDN A & B channels) then incoming
calls will get the engaged tone.

And I DON'T live in the sticks, our exchange is enabled for ADSL, but
I'm 1km to far away from the exchange. This is how BT stop me
registering my exchange for ADSL enabling.

I did look at midband, but I already have ISDN, which gives me two out
of three lines (just like Midband) and BT wanted me to have Midband so
I could have call bumping. This was going to cost an extra £10 per
month for some software, so I didn't take them up on the offer.

Pete S.

In article <c14f0j$1bu3p1$1@ID-169434.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Keith S. <false@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Keith Lawrence wrote:
>> "Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote...
>>
>>
>>>>Immediate thought is to find a geek/friend that =IS= near
>>>>enough to the exchange, for a couple of hundered quid or so
>>>>you could WLAN bridge it (2 or 3 km shouldn't be a problem)
>>>>and then go halves on the ADSL
>>
>>
>>>You need a license to use WLAN at that kind of range.
>>
>>
>> Really? You got a reference for that Alun?
>
>The maximum unlicensed power limit in the license-exempt bands
>such as 2.4GHz is 4W. Whether commercial wlans
>run at that level I don't know, as the IEEE802.11b
>only claims 50m range. You could try looking in ofcom.org.uk.

4W is a lot for 2.4Ghz. Is that total power, or is the gain
of a directional antenna counted?

Without counting the gain you should be able to do 5-6 km with
a 50 dBi antenna at 4W.

-- mrr

"Morten Reistad" <firstname@lastname.pr1v.n0> wrote in message
news:ral05c.ohm1.ln@via.reistad.priv.no...
> In article <c14f0j$1bu3p1$1@ID-169434.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> Keith S. <false@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >Keith Lawrence wrote:
> >> "Alun Harford" <alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote...
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Immediate thought is to find a geek/friend that =IS= near
> >>>>enough to the exchange, for a couple of hundered quid or so
> >>>>you could WLAN bridge it (2 or 3 km shouldn't be a problem)
> >>>>and then go halves on the ADSL
> >>
> >>
> >>>You need a license to use WLAN at that kind of range.
> >>
> >>
> >> Really? You got a reference for that Alun?
> >
> >The maximum unlicensed power limit in the license-exempt bands
> >such as 2.4GHz is 4W. Whether commercial wlans
> >run at that level I don't know, as the IEEE802.11b
> >only claims 50m range. You could try looking in ofcom.org.uk.
>
> 4W is a lot for 2.4Ghz. Is that total power, or is the gain
> of a directional antenna counted?
>
> Without counting the gain you should be able to do 5-6 km with
> a 50 dBi antenna at 4W.
>
> -- mrr
>

or just get the sattelite setup :)

rhys