Mares M1 opinions?

as header. what do the group think about this computer which is being
heavily discounted a.t.m. worth buying as a first computer or save the
pennies for something better?
tia
Derek

On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:05:27 +0000, Derek Turner <somewhat@odds.net>
wrote:

>as header. what do the group think about this computer which is being
>heavily discounted a.t.m. worth buying as a first computer or save the
>pennies for something better?

Heavily discounted.

Your clue's there.

I wouldn't. Consider a Vyper instead.
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ferret
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:35:12 +0000, ferret <ferret@cruelmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:05:27 +0000, Derek Turner <somewhat@odds.net>
>wrote:
>
>>as header. what do the group think about this computer which is being
>>heavily discounted a.t.m. worth buying as a first computer or save the
>>pennies for something better?
>
>Heavily discounted.
>
>Your clue's there.
>
>I wouldn't. Consider a Vyper instead.

Or if you don't want the PC download facility a Gekko

Pete

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:05:27 +0000, Derek Turner <somewhat@odds.net>
wrote:

>as header. what do the group think about this computer which is being
>heavily discounted a.t.m. worth buying as a first computer or save the
>pennies for something better?
>tia
>Derek

I have a mate who uses an M1 as a back-up computer and likes it. Gives
very similar deco times and stops to my Aladdin.

Has the "advantage" that if you bend it, it can be "straightened" by a
user reset, so I guess that it could be used as a dive timer for more
serious stuff later on.

Overall, there are better computers about, but if it meets your
requirements and is as much as you want to spend, then I don't think
there is too much wrong with it.

David

ferret <ferret@cruelmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:05:27 +0000, Derek Turner <somewhat@odds.net>
> wrote:
>>as header. what do the group think about this computer which is being
>>heavily discounted a.t.m. worth buying as a first computer or save the
>>pennies for something better?

> Heavily discounted.
> Your clue's there.

It is being heavily discounted because there is the new M1 RGBM model
(but the M1 doesn't seem discontinued yet, since it is still listed as
a current product in Mares' Web page) :

M1 RGBM http://www.mares.com/product.asp?cat=6&prod=136
M1 http://www.mares.com/product.asp?cat=6&prod=64

M1 RGBM : 254.15 Euro
http://www.scubastore.com/producte.a...o=4115&desde=0
M1 : 211.65 Euro
http://www.scubastore.com/producte.a...o=3173&desde=0

Considering its price and that the Suunto Favor and derivatives have been
discontinued, this an interesting option. The Mares Guardian had a very
bad reputation for reliability, but it seems the M1 improved a lot.

I have just noticed that Mares claims: "with 11-tissue exponential
deterministic algorithm, with M values (low bubble) derived from
studies by Rogers and Powell (modified Haldane)."

It doesn't seem to be exactly the same as the Oceanics Versa/Versa
Pro *, but it is still one of the less conservatives computers around.

* "The decompression model used by an Oceanic dive computer is
based on the no-decompression multi-level repetitive dive schedules
successfully tested by Dr Ray Rogers and Dr Michael Powell. These
tests did not include dives deeper than 90 feet (27m) or decompression
(stop) dives.")

> I wouldn't. Consider a Vyper instead.

Standard advice, but the Suunto Vyper is a bit more expensive, for
a very similar (IIRC) set of features:
SUUNTO, VYPER SILVER PULS PRICE: 331.08 Eur
http://www.scubastore.com/producte.a...lo=517&desde=0

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Europe | Villeneuve 50-82, Toivonen 56-86, Senna 60-94

Let them proof first they can make a good computer. Till now they cannot. I
don't own a M1 because of all the touble with the older computers of Mares.
I happily own a Suunto Cobra and don't want any other brand instead.

Willem

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> as header. what do the group think about this computer which is being
> heavily discounted a.t.m. worth buying as a first computer or save the
> pennies for something better?
> tia
> Derek