Basic u/w camera

In article <2t82tiF1si5giU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>"Gordon Henderson" <gordon@lion.drogon.net> wrote in message
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>> In article <2t5j95F1s457nU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I have a MMIIEx + YS50 + peli-case for sale... Make me an offer before
>> I stick it on eBay...
>>
>> I think the problem with the proces on eBay is that people like me paid
>> £700+ for them only a few years ago and now the bottms dropped out of
>> the market. It's a damn fine (for a non-slr) camera if you ask me and
>> I've taken many good photos with it, but never really had the time to
>> scan the slides or negs, alas.
>
>To be honest Gordon, I wouldn't want to insult you with the sort of money
>I'd be prepared to pay for a second hand MMII-EX (ie. about £100!). I've
>already got a YS60S so I wouldn't need the strobe or the case (got one of
>those too) so all I'd need is the camera. To be honest, you'd be better off
>sticking it on ebay as a bundle...

Yea, I know. I'll get a round tuit one of these days!

Damn fine camera though - I just can't be arsed scanning slides or negs
these days.

Gordon

In article <2t82tiF1si5giU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>"Gordon Henderson" <gordon@lion.drogon.net> wrote in message
>news:cklbdu$h1k$1@lion.drogon.net...
>> In article <2t5j95F1s457nU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I have a MMIIEx + YS50 + peli-case for sale... Make me an offer before
>> I stick it on eBay...
>>
>> I think the problem with the proces on eBay is that people like me paid
>> £700+ for them only a few years ago and now the bottms dropped out of
>> the market. It's a damn fine (for a non-slr) camera if you ask me and
>> I've taken many good photos with it, but never really had the time to
>> scan the slides or negs, alas.
>
>To be honest Gordon, I wouldn't want to insult you with the sort of money
>I'd be prepared to pay for a second hand MMII-EX (ie. about £100!). I've
>already got a YS60S so I wouldn't need the strobe or the case (got one of
>those too) so all I'd need is the camera. To be honest, you'd be better off
>sticking it on ebay as a bundle...

Yea, I know. I'll get a round tuit one of these days!

Damn fine camera though - I just can't be arsed scanning slides or negs
these days.

Gordon

In article <2t82tiF1si5giU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>"Gordon Henderson" <gordon@lion.drogon.net> wrote in message
>news:cklbdu$h1k$1@lion.drogon.net...
>> In article <2t5j95F1s457nU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I have a MMIIEx + YS50 + peli-case for sale... Make me an offer before
>> I stick it on eBay...
>>
>> I think the problem with the proces on eBay is that people like me paid
>> £700+ for them only a few years ago and now the bottms dropped out of
>> the market. It's a damn fine (for a non-slr) camera if you ask me and
>> I've taken many good photos with it, but never really had the time to
>> scan the slides or negs, alas.
>
>To be honest Gordon, I wouldn't want to insult you with the sort of money
>I'd be prepared to pay for a second hand MMII-EX (ie. about £100!). I've
>already got a YS60S so I wouldn't need the strobe or the case (got one of
>those too) so all I'd need is the camera. To be honest, you'd be better off
>sticking it on ebay as a bundle...

Yea, I know. I'll get a round tuit one of these days!

Damn fine camera though - I just can't be arsed scanning slides or negs
these days.

Gordon

In article <2t82tiF1si5giU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>"Gordon Henderson" <gordon@lion.drogon.net> wrote in message
>news:cklbdu$h1k$1@lion.drogon.net...
>> In article <2t5j95F1s457nU1@uni-berlin.de>, Bardo <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I have a MMIIEx + YS50 + peli-case for sale... Make me an offer before
>> I stick it on eBay...
>>
>> I think the problem with the proces on eBay is that people like me paid
>> £700+ for them only a few years ago and now the bottms dropped out of
>> the market. It's a damn fine (for a non-slr) camera if you ask me and
>> I've taken many good photos with it, but never really had the time to
>> scan the slides or negs, alas.
>
>To be honest Gordon, I wouldn't want to insult you with the sort of money
>I'd be prepared to pay for a second hand MMII-EX (ie. about £100!). I've
>already got a YS60S so I wouldn't need the strobe or the case (got one of
>those too) so all I'd need is the camera. To be honest, you'd be better off
>sticking it on ebay as a bundle...

Yea, I know. I'll get a round tuit one of these days!

Damn fine camera though - I just can't be arsed scanning slides or negs
these days.

Gordon

Have previously used a basic u/w camera (remember the old vivitar 35m with
housing)

Results were as you would expect flaky. OK in clear water at a couple of
mtrs, and poorer results at depth (blue cast)

Now the time has come to upgrade. Options are

1) Buy a "cheap" camera/housing/strobe (maybe secondhand?)
2) Buy a housing and strobe for my existing digital camera (Canon S10)
3) Buy a "cheap" digital camera and strobe and u/water housing.

As far as I can tell digital is still not widely used for u/water
photography, so option 1 seems the most likely option.

Can anyone recommend a setup keeping cost low but with reasonable results
for the cost?

Pete wrote:

> 1) Buy a "cheap" camera/housing/strobe (maybe secondhand?)
> 2) Buy a housing and strobe for my existing digital camera (Canon S10)
> 3) Buy a "cheap" digital camera and strobe and u/water housing.
>
> As far as I can tell digital is still not widely used for u/water
> photography, so option 1 seems the most likely option.

Not sure if that's true. My experience is that although pro level
photographers still use film, most people who just play about use
digital. It allows you to see what you're doing when you're doing it,
and the lack of development costs (although do think about batteries...)
means that you can shoot a hundred photos, delete them all and shoot a
hundred more with what you've learnt.

I'm not au-fait with what the best deals are at the moment, but I
recommend getting a housing which allows you to use all the buttons on
your camera... or alternativly get a new camera/housing if you prefer
not to risk your current camera.

In terms of strobes, I've had lots of (to me) sucesses without one, but
I'd like to get one...

Ben

www.benpanter.co.uk/diving -- some photos without a strobe.

"Pete" <pete@net.ent> wrote in message
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> Have previously used a basic u/w camera (remember the old vivitar 35m with
> housing)
>
> Results were as you would expect flaky. OK in clear water at a couple of
> mtrs, and poorer results at depth (blue cast)
>
> Now the time has come to upgrade. Options are
>
> 1) Buy a "cheap" camera/housing/strobe (maybe secondhand?)
> 2) Buy a housing and strobe for my existing digital camera (Canon S10)
> 3) Buy a "cheap" digital camera and strobe and u/water housing.
>
> As far as I can tell digital is still not widely used for u/water
> photography, so option 1 seems the most likely option.
>
> Can anyone recommend a setup keeping cost low but with reasonable results
> for the cost?
>
>
>

ok, just had a quick squint on camerasunderwater. the only option they list
for the s10 is the boil-in-the-bag thingy. tried the aquapac a few years ago
with my cheap (at the time, expensive now!) fuji. fine for shallow depths of
a few metres, hard work after that as the pressure has a habit of pushing
the buttons and if you need to operate any slide switches (e.g. power) then
it's difficult any deeper than 3-5m.

> ok, just had a quick squint on camerasunderwater. the only option they
> list
> for the s10 is the boil-in-the-bag thingy.

Whoops, what am I on? My camera is the S30 not the S10. There is a houseing
http://www.camerasunderwater.co.uk/d...n/wpdc300.html so it is an
option? What about insurance for a flooded digital?

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:13:10 +0200, Ben Panter <me@privacy.net> wrote:


>Not sure if that's true. My experience is that although pro level
>photographers still use film, most people who just play about use
>digital. It allows you to see what you're doing when you're doing it,
>and the lack of development costs (although do think about batteries...)
>means that you can shoot a hundred photos, delete them all and shoot a
>hundred more with what you've learnt.

There are "quite a few" pro level photographers using digital. Paul
Kay, Alex Mustard, etc etc.

>In terms of strobes, I've had lots of (to me) sucesses without one, but
>I'd like to get one...

Natural light shots can work, I did some last week in the depths of
Vobster.

Pete S.

"Pete" <pete@net.ent> wrote in message
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>> ok, just had a quick squint on camerasunderwater. the only option they
>> list
>> for the s10 is the boil-in-the-bag thingy.
>
> Whoops, what am I on? My camera is the S30 not the S10. There is a
> houseing http://www.camerasunderwater.co.uk/d...n/wpdc300.html so
> it is an option? What about insurance for a flooded digital?
>
I insured mine with Dive Master Insurance, £40~£50 if I remeber coprrectly.
Very useful though as it flooded in the Maldives. Luckliiy the day after the
Whale Shark.

After sending a repair estimate they offered to replace it with an Olympus
C-60 and housing or give me £330. I took the money and have bought a C-5060
and all the kit!!!!

HTH

Bari.