Excel airways legroom

"David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And really, unless you're 7 foot tall you must have a very strange posture
to get your knees jammed into the seats infront of you.



David,

I'm only 6 foot 1 and I just do not fit in the charter airline seats. The
problem is not my height but the distance from hip to knee. It doesn't help
to I've had a lot of surgery on my knee and so this means I have loads of
problems flying cattle class.

I spent a very, very uncomfortable 4 hours going to/from Tenerife last week
and to be honest it really put a downer on the holiday (as did the 7 hour
delay at Manchester). We flew with Thomas Cook which gave an extra 10kg for
our diving gear (well done Thomas Cook) shame that they pack us in so tight.

I've just got back from the travel agent to book for Kenya in May. We have
booked with BA and upgraded to World Traveller Plus seats, but the baggage
allowance is very poor. Only 23Kg and no extra for diving gear (but you can
take 12Kg hand luggage, madness indeed!)

Craig


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> Just to add my tuppence - I flew to Grenada with Excel in the summer and
> had a very uncomfortable eight hours (I'm 1.85m / 95kg)
> The only odd thing was although Excel allowed 30kg plus 10kg for dive
> gear, Neilson (who we booked with) reduced the allowance to 20kg, but
> still allowed the extra 10kg free for gear. As someone else noted, they
> were VERY strict about the 5kg hand luggage.
>
> Now I'm going to Bodrum flying with Thomas Cook Airlines (again with
> Neilson and 20kg), and they have NO free excess for dive gear.
> What's it like wearing a BCD for a four hour flight?
>

Never heard of Neilson, but I think the moral of the story is not to book
with them again!

David

> They got into trouble a while ago with three or four poor ski seasons
> together and got bought out by one of the big players (poss Thomson), who


Beg your pardon, its Thomas Cook.

CAS
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David,

It would be faor to assume you are either a midget or have no legs.

Airlines have been under pressure for years to increase leg rom american
airlines have done and offer 35 inches of leg room to econonmy passengers.
BA and most other airlines have 31 inches.

This site gives trhe seat pitches for a large number of airlines.

http://www.travelleronline.com/planner/airnews.shtml

I am 1.9 m tall and 100kg. The seats are too small for anything longer than
about 90 minutes unless you are a midget or have no legs....


"David Walker" <wbsdavenews@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Having recently flown to Hurghada and back in conditions cramped enough
>> to drive anyone terminally insane, and knowing how the flight was packed
>> with
>
> Just like any other 'economy' airline seat. If you want a big seat with
> lots of legroom, you can pay for business class. If you don't want to pay
> more, then you get a little less legroom (and frankly it's more than
> enough space for a 4 hour flight).
>
> David
>

> I am 1.9 m tall and 100kg. The seats are too small for anything longer
> than about 90 minutes unless you are a midget or have no legs....

Ah well, seems I'm outvoted. And yes I do have legs, and at 5'11" not much
of a midget (although getting that way - everyone seems taller than me now).

Maybe I just have lower expectations - the entire week will cost around £700
in total (including absolutely everything from leaving the house, flights,
liveaboard for the week, the Ras Mohammed fee, tips for the crew, and out
last night in the town) so I don't expect mega-luxury. It get's me where
i'm going and i'll do me.

And to think people think that students complain a lot - HA! :O)

David

"Eddie" <Eddie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>

> Flying Excel to the Red Sea on Thursday. One good thing about them is the
> 10 kg extra baggage for divers. Need it, as I am going on my own, without
> the wife (non diver/less baggage). ))))))
>
> Eddie

Jeez! Just got back from Marsa Alam last night. Excel lost my luggage so I
had a whole week on Tiger Lily without my clothes and dive gear. Had to hire
a whole set of equipment at a cost of £113. Luggage at Serviceair desk on
arrival back at Gatwick. Needless to I am going for some sort of
compensation for the stress of arrival, cost and having to get used to new
gear Going for Excel first and then looking at my dive insurance. Any
advice???????

Diving was great but St John's reef was very busy with loads of divers.
(((((((

Eddie

> Jeez! Just got back from Marsa Alam last night. Excel lost my luggage so I
> had a whole week on Tiger Lily without my clothes and dive gear. Had to
hire
> a whole set of equipment at a cost of £113. Luggage at Serviceair desk on
> arrival back at Gatwick. Needless to I am going for some sort of
> compensation for the stress of arrival, cost and having to get used to new
> gear Going for Excel first and then looking at my dive insurance. Any
> advice???????

> Eddie

Save yourself the hassle and just have it off your insurance - Excel will
blame Serviceair, Serviceair will blame Excel and it'll go nowhere.

Check your policy though - it may stipulate that you have to try to claim
compo off the airline or their agents first.

CAS

Just got back on Monday from Sharm, diving from MV Orchid.

Flew with Excel, and it was obvious that the plane we flew home on was much
older than the plane we flew out on as the seats on the return flight were
more cramped and rock hard (bugger all seat padding).

I'm not that tall (5'7") and even I felt constrained and had a numb bum
after 10 minutes.

However, at least mu luggage was Ok and they did not quiblle about being a
few KG's overweighted.


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> "David Walker" <stuff@scuby.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > > Just to add my tuppence - I flew to Grenada with Excel in the summer
and
> > > had a very uncomfortable eight hours (I'm 1.85m / 95kg)
> > > The only odd thing was although Excel allowed 30kg plus 10kg for dive
> > > gear, Neilson (who we booked with) reduced the allowance to 20kg, but
> > > still allowed the extra 10kg free for gear. As someone else noted,
they
> > > were VERY strict about the 5kg hand luggage.
> > >
> > > Now I'm going to Bodrum flying with Thomas Cook Airlines (again with
> > > Neilson and 20kg), and they have NO free excess for dive gear.
> > > What's it like wearing a BCD for a four hour flight?
> > >
> >
> > Never heard of Neilson, but I think the moral of the story is not to
book
> > with them again!
> >
> > David
>
>
> Neilson used to be one of the best tour operators in the UK. A long time
> ago. When they were still independent. They were pretty much a skiing
> specialist with a limited portfolio. I went with them a couple of times,
> they were superb.
>
> They got into trouble a while ago with three or four poor ski seasons
> together and got bought out by one of the big players (poss Thomson), who
> used the brand to promote all their "active" holidays. The rest, as they
> say...
>
> CAS
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