Headaches & PFOs

"ITMA" <mindyourown@business.com> wrote in message
news:422b0728_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> I'd be interested to hear what people know or think of headaches after
> surfacing.
>
> I used to dive in the UK in the early 1990's and always surfaced with a
> headache when diving from a RIB, and often at other times. Depths were
> typically 10-25m. I shore-dived off Greece without a wetsuit down to about
> 15m the year before last & was fine. I dived in the Red Sea last October
> after spending an hour or two rolling around on a dive boat getting to the
> site, and with the engine fumes too of course, and headaches reoccurred
> except on one occasion on the last day of the holiday when it dawned on me
> I'd been mad to follow the herd, all fighting against the swell to put on
> wetsuits, when a T-shirt suffices (to 18m, anyway!)
>
> I'm obviously thinking it might simply be the stress & hassle of kitting
> up on a moving boat, aggravated by engine fumes, that is at the root of
> this, and the urgency of getting in the water somehow suppresses the
> headache until surfacing, or else its something to do with holding your
> head back at 90 degrees to see where you're going underwater, though the
> possibility of a medical 'problem' is a worry.
>
> A dive magazine from c.Oct 04 had a letter from a club member who often
> surfaced with headaches, and had then suffered an inexplicable bend. My
> efforts to email that person, to further share her experiences, met with
> couple of replies from a branch official clearly anxious that I should not
> pursue any contact (for whatever mysterious reason).
>
> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about
> headaches, listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff,
> which is reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom
> out' so to speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be
> the fashionable topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested /
> repaired?

If you google this group there was a thread late last year on this topic.

"ITMA" <mindyourown@business.com> wrote in message
news:422b0728_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> I'd be interested to hear what people know or think of headaches after
> surfacing.
>
> I used to dive in the UK in the early 1990's and always surfaced with a
> headache when diving from a RIB, and often at other times. Depths were
> typically 10-25m. I shore-dived off Greece without a wetsuit down to about
> 15m the year before last & was fine. I dived in the Red Sea last October
> after spending an hour or two rolling around on a dive boat getting to the
> site, and with the engine fumes too of course, and headaches reoccurred
> except on one occasion on the last day of the holiday when it dawned on me
> I'd been mad to follow the herd, all fighting against the swell to put on
> wetsuits, when a T-shirt suffices (to 18m, anyway!)
>
> I'm obviously thinking it might simply be the stress & hassle of kitting
> up on a moving boat, aggravated by engine fumes, that is at the root of
> this, and the urgency of getting in the water somehow suppresses the
> headache until surfacing, or else its something to do with holding your
> head back at 90 degrees to see where you're going underwater, though the
> possibility of a medical 'problem' is a worry.
>
> A dive magazine from c.Oct 04 had a letter from a club member who often
> surfaced with headaches, and had then suffered an inexplicable bend. My
> efforts to email that person, to further share her experiences, met with
> couple of replies from a branch official clearly anxious that I should not
> pursue any contact (for whatever mysterious reason).
>
> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about
> headaches, listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff,
> which is reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom
> out' so to speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be
> the fashionable topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested /
> repaired?

If you google this group there was a thread late last year on this topic.

"ITMA" <mindyourown@business.com> wrote in message
news:422b0728_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> I'd be interested to hear what people know or think of headaches after
> surfacing.
>
> I used to dive in the UK in the early 1990's and always surfaced with a
> headache when diving from a RIB, and often at other times. Depths were
> typically 10-25m. I shore-dived off Greece without a wetsuit down to about
> 15m the year before last & was fine. I dived in the Red Sea last October
> after spending an hour or two rolling around on a dive boat getting to the
> site, and with the engine fumes too of course, and headaches reoccurred
> except on one occasion on the last day of the holiday when it dawned on me
> I'd been mad to follow the herd, all fighting against the swell to put on
> wetsuits, when a T-shirt suffices (to 18m, anyway!)
>
> I'm obviously thinking it might simply be the stress & hassle of kitting
> up on a moving boat, aggravated by engine fumes, that is at the root of
> this, and the urgency of getting in the water somehow suppresses the
> headache until surfacing, or else its something to do with holding your
> head back at 90 degrees to see where you're going underwater, though the
> possibility of a medical 'problem' is a worry.
>
> A dive magazine from c.Oct 04 had a letter from a club member who often
> surfaced with headaches, and had then suffered an inexplicable bend. My
> efforts to email that person, to further share her experiences, met with
> couple of replies from a branch official clearly anxious that I should not
> pursue any contact (for whatever mysterious reason).
>
> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about
> headaches, listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff,
> which is reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom
> out' so to speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be
> the fashionable topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested /
> repaired?

If you google this group there was a thread late last year on this topic.

"ITMA" <mindyourown@business.com> wrote in message
news:422b0728_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> I'd be interested to hear what people know or think of headaches after
> surfacing.
>
> I used to dive in the UK in the early 1990's and always surfaced with a
> headache when diving from a RIB, and often at other times. Depths were
> typically 10-25m. I shore-dived off Greece without a wetsuit down to about
> 15m the year before last & was fine. I dived in the Red Sea last October
> after spending an hour or two rolling around on a dive boat getting to the
> site, and with the engine fumes too of course, and headaches reoccurred
> except on one occasion on the last day of the holiday when it dawned on me
> I'd been mad to follow the herd, all fighting against the swell to put on
> wetsuits, when a T-shirt suffices (to 18m, anyway!)
>
> I'm obviously thinking it might simply be the stress & hassle of kitting
> up on a moving boat, aggravated by engine fumes, that is at the root of
> this, and the urgency of getting in the water somehow suppresses the
> headache until surfacing, or else its something to do with holding your
> head back at 90 degrees to see where you're going underwater, though the
> possibility of a medical 'problem' is a worry.
>
> A dive magazine from c.Oct 04 had a letter from a club member who often
> surfaced with headaches, and had then suffered an inexplicable bend. My
> efforts to email that person, to further share her experiences, met with
> couple of replies from a branch official clearly anxious that I should not
> pursue any contact (for whatever mysterious reason).
>
> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about
> headaches, listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff,
> which is reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom
> out' so to speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be
> the fashionable topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested /
> repaired?

If you google this group there was a thread late last year on this topic.

"ITMA" <mindyourown@business.com> wrote in message
news:422b0728_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> I'd be interested to hear what people know or think of headaches after
> surfacing.
>
> I used to dive in the UK in the early 1990's and always surfaced with a
> headache when diving from a RIB, and often at other times. Depths were
> typically 10-25m. I shore-dived off Greece without a wetsuit down to about
> 15m the year before last & was fine. I dived in the Red Sea last October
> after spending an hour or two rolling around on a dive boat getting to the
> site, and with the engine fumes too of course, and headaches reoccurred
> except on one occasion on the last day of the holiday when it dawned on me
> I'd been mad to follow the herd, all fighting against the swell to put on
> wetsuits, when a T-shirt suffices (to 18m, anyway!)
>
> I'm obviously thinking it might simply be the stress & hassle of kitting
> up on a moving boat, aggravated by engine fumes, that is at the root of
> this, and the urgency of getting in the water somehow suppresses the
> headache until surfacing, or else its something to do with holding your
> head back at 90 degrees to see where you're going underwater, though the
> possibility of a medical 'problem' is a worry.
>
> A dive magazine from c.Oct 04 had a letter from a club member who often
> surfaced with headaches, and had then suffered an inexplicable bend. My
> efforts to email that person, to further share her experiences, met with
> couple of replies from a branch official clearly anxious that I should not
> pursue any contact (for whatever mysterious reason).
>
> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about
> headaches, listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff,
> which is reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom
> out' so to speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be
> the fashionable topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested /
> repaired?

If you google this group there was a thread late last year on this topic.

"ITMA" <mindyourown@business.com> wrote in message
news:422b0728_2@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> I'd be interested to hear what people know or think of headaches after
> surfacing.
>
> I used to dive in the UK in the early 1990's and always surfaced with a
> headache when diving from a RIB, and often at other times. Depths were
> typically 10-25m. I shore-dived off Greece without a wetsuit down to about
> 15m the year before last & was fine. I dived in the Red Sea last October
> after spending an hour or two rolling around on a dive boat getting to the
> site, and with the engine fumes too of course, and headaches reoccurred
> except on one occasion on the last day of the holiday when it dawned on me
> I'd been mad to follow the herd, all fighting against the swell to put on
> wetsuits, when a T-shirt suffices (to 18m, anyway!)
>
> I'm obviously thinking it might simply be the stress & hassle of kitting
> up on a moving boat, aggravated by engine fumes, that is at the root of
> this, and the urgency of getting in the water somehow suppresses the
> headache until surfacing, or else its something to do with holding your
> head back at 90 degrees to see where you're going underwater, though the
> possibility of a medical 'problem' is a worry.
>
> A dive magazine from c.Oct 04 had a letter from a club member who often
> surfaced with headaches, and had then suffered an inexplicable bend. My
> efforts to email that person, to further share her experiences, met with
> couple of replies from a branch official clearly anxious that I should not
> pursue any contact (for whatever mysterious reason).
>
> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about
> headaches, listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff,
> which is reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom
> out' so to speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be
> the fashionable topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested /
> repaired?

If you google this group there was a thread late last year on this topic.

ITMA wrote:

> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about headaches,
> listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff, which is
> reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom out' so to
> speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be the fashionable
> topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested / repaired?

Now, I am not an expert in these matters, but I have sort-of been where
you are (when I got my first certificate, I was diagnosed with a minor
defect in the aorta valve). So, first of all:

If you think you may have a heartcondition, I definitely think you
should get it tested (even if you are not diving).
Testing for PFO should simply be a matter of making an ECG
(echocardiography), but the doc will probably make an EEG
(electrocardiography) first, as this could rule-out the possibility of
an PFO (thus making the ECG unnecessary).

Both examinations are quite simple and fast, and have no special
prerequisites on your part.

--
David

Email-addy available upon request.

ITMA wrote:

> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about headaches,
> listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff, which is
> reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom out' so to
> speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be the fashionable
> topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested / repaired?

Now, I am not an expert in these matters, but I have sort-of been where
you are (when I got my first certificate, I was diagnosed with a minor
defect in the aorta valve). So, first of all:

If you think you may have a heartcondition, I definitely think you
should get it tested (even if you are not diving).
Testing for PFO should simply be a matter of making an ECG
(echocardiography), but the doc will probably make an EEG
(electrocardiography) first, as this could rule-out the possibility of
an PFO (thus making the ECG unnecessary).

Both examinations are quite simple and fast, and have no special
prerequisites on your part.

--
David

Email-addy available upon request.

ITMA wrote:

> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about headaches,
> listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff, which is
> reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom out' so to
> speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be the fashionable
> topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested / repaired?

Now, I am not an expert in these matters, but I have sort-of been where
you are (when I got my first certificate, I was diagnosed with a minor
defect in the aorta valve). So, first of all:

If you think you may have a heartcondition, I definitely think you
should get it tested (even if you are not diving).
Testing for PFO should simply be a matter of making an ECG
(echocardiography), but the doc will probably make an EEG
(electrocardiography) first, as this could rule-out the possibility of
an PFO (thus making the ECG unnecessary).

Both examinations are quite simple and fast, and have no special
prerequisites on your part.

--
David

Email-addy available upon request.

ITMA wrote:

> Meanwhile, whoever's on the other end of enquiries@ddrc.org declined to
> reply, but DAN kindly responded with a two page pdf article about headaches,
> listing all sorts of things other than bend-related stuff, which is
> reassuring on the one hand but leaves me still wanting to 'bottom out' so to
> speak any possibility of one of those PFO's which seem to be the fashionable
> topic of the last few months. How do you get them tested / repaired?

Now, I am not an expert in these matters, but I have sort-of been where
you are (when I got my first certificate, I was diagnosed with a minor
defect in the aorta valve). So, first of all:

If you think you may have a heartcondition, I definitely think you
should get it tested (even if you are not diving).
Testing for PFO should simply be a matter of making an ECG
(echocardiography), but the doc will probably make an EEG
(electrocardiography) first, as this could rule-out the possibility of
an PFO (thus making the ECG unnecessary).

Both examinations are quite simple and fast, and have no special
prerequisites on your part.

--
David

Email-addy available upon request.