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Old 07-28-2005, 04:00 PM
David Walker
 
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Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first, before
looking into extra kit.

What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice between
pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no particular
reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a pony is
initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly fine for
diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect for at least
a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony, if/when you
upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l cylinder, and
of course you can keep that for other uses in the future. Helps spread the
cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.

Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.

David




"Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>
> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>
> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
> twinsets?
>
> Look forward to some opinions
>
> Craig
>
>
>



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Old 07-28-2005, 04:00 PM
David Walker
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first, before
looking into extra kit.

What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice between
pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no particular
reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a pony is
initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly fine for
diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect for at least
a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony, if/when you
upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l cylinder, and
of course you can keep that for other uses in the future. Helps spread the
cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.

Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.

David




"Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>
> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>
> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
> twinsets?
>
> Look forward to some opinions
>
> Craig
>
>
>



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  #3  
Old 07-28-2005, 04:00 PM
David Walker
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first, before
looking into extra kit.

What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice between
pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no particular
reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a pony is
initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly fine for
diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect for at least
a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony, if/when you
upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l cylinder, and
of course you can keep that for other uses in the future. Helps spread the
cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.

Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.

David




"Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>
> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>
> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
> twinsets?
>
> Look forward to some opinions
>
> Craig
>
>
>



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  #4  
Old 07-28-2005, 04:00 PM
David Walker
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first, before
looking into extra kit.

What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice between
pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no particular
reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a pony is
initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly fine for
diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect for at least
a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony, if/when you
upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l cylinder, and
of course you can keep that for other uses in the future. Helps spread the
cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.

Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.

David




"Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>
> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>
> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
> twinsets?
>
> Look forward to some opinions
>
> Craig
>
>
>



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  #5  
Old 07-28-2005, 04:00 PM
David Walker
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first, before
looking into extra kit.

What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice between
pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no particular
reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a pony is
initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly fine for
diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect for at least
a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony, if/when you
upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l cylinder, and
of course you can keep that for other uses in the future. Helps spread the
cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.

Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.

David




"Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>
> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>
> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
> twinsets?
>
> Look forward to some opinions
>
> Craig
>
>
>



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  #6  
Old 07-28-2005, 04:00 PM
David Walker
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first, before
looking into extra kit.

What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice between
pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no particular
reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a pony is
initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly fine for
diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect for at least
a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony, if/when you
upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l cylinder, and
of course you can keep that for other uses in the future. Helps spread the
cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.

Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.

David




"Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>
> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>
> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
> twinsets?
>
> Look forward to some opinions
>
> Craig
>
>
>



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  #7  
Old 07-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Craig Campbell
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Seems like good advice - I already have all my own kit and have just
purchased a new faber 12ltr 232 bottle.

Should I go for an aluminium 3ltr pony to keep weight to a minimum to
minimise imbalance, does anybody know what weight would be in a filled 3ltr
aluminium pony?

Craig Campbell

"David Walker" <stuff@scuby.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbdgq$cb7$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk...
> Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
> together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first,
> before looking into extra kit.
>
> What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
> Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
> ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice
> between pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no
> particular reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a
> pony is initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly
> fine for diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect
> for at least a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony,
> if/when you upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l
> cylinder, and of course you can keep that for other uses in the future.
> Helps spread the cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.
>
> Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
> don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
> changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> "Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>>
>> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
>> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>>
>> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
>> twinsets?
>>
>> Look forward to some opinions
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>

>
>



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  #8  
Old 07-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Craig Campbell
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Seems like good advice - I already have all my own kit and have just
purchased a new faber 12ltr 232 bottle.

Should I go for an aluminium 3ltr pony to keep weight to a minimum to
minimise imbalance, does anybody know what weight would be in a filled 3ltr
aluminium pony?

Craig Campbell

"David Walker" <stuff@scuby.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbdgq$cb7$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk...
> Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
> together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first,
> before looking into extra kit.
>
> What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
> Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
> ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice
> between pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no
> particular reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a
> pony is initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly
> fine for diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect
> for at least a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony,
> if/when you upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l
> cylinder, and of course you can keep that for other uses in the future.
> Helps spread the cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.
>
> Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
> don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
> changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> "Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>>
>> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
>> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>>
>> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
>> twinsets?
>>
>> Look forward to some opinions
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>

>
>



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  #9  
Old 07-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Craig Campbell
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Seems like good advice - I already have all my own kit and have just
purchased a new faber 12ltr 232 bottle.

Should I go for an aluminium 3ltr pony to keep weight to a minimum to
minimise imbalance, does anybody know what weight would be in a filled 3ltr
aluminium pony?

Craig Campbell

"David Walker" <stuff@scuby.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbdgq$cb7$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk...
> Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
> together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first,
> before looking into extra kit.
>
> What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
> Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
> ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice
> between pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no
> particular reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a
> pony is initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly
> fine for diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect
> for at least a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony,
> if/when you upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l
> cylinder, and of course you can keep that for other uses in the future.
> Helps spread the cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.
>
> Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
> don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
> changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> "Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>>
>> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
>> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>>
>> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
>> twinsets?
>>
>> Look forward to some opinions
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 07-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Craig Campbell
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Choice of redundant air supply

Seems like good advice - I already have all my own kit and have just
purchased a new faber 12ltr 232 bottle.

Should I go for an aluminium 3ltr pony to keep weight to a minimum to
minimise imbalance, does anybody know what weight would be in a filled 3ltr
aluminium pony?

Craig Campbell

"David Walker" <stuff@scuby.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dcbdgq$cb7$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk...
> Do you have your own basic kit already, or would you be buying it all
> together? I'd recommend getting yourself sorted with all that first,
> before looking into extra kit.
>
> What you need depends on the diving you're doing. Personally i'd ignore
> Spare Air (almost as much as a pony setup, with a volume which means any
> ascent will always have to be dangerously rapid), leaving the choice
> between pony and twins. At your level, i'd say get a pony. Theres no
> particular reason not to get twins if you decided to go that way, but a
> pony is initially lighter, easier to carry / kit up etc, and perfectly
> fine for diving to around 30-35m, which is all you'll be doing I expect
> for at least a year, maybe more. If you look at the cost of the pony,
> if/when you upgrade to twins you'll only have lost the ~£60 cost of the 3l
> cylinder, and of course you can keep that for other uses in the future.
> Helps spread the cost a bit more if you're thinking twins later.
>
> Just make sure you can justify to yourself what you're getting and why -
> don't try to future-proof yourself too far into the future, because kit
> changes, devalues, tanks need servicing, etc.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> "Craig Campbell" <mail@craigcampbell.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dcbc16$lqo$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>I am new to diving and have just qualified as a ocean diver. I would like
>>to have a redundant air supply instead of just an octopus.
>>
>> Opinions please on which to choose and for what reason;
>> Pony, Spare Air or twinset? or just stick to buddy/octopus?
>>
>> I feel Spare Air appealing as no large tanks to cause imbalance or heavy
>> twinsets?
>>
>> Look forward to some opinions
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>

>
>



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