Buddy Breathing. Receiver to hold hose or not

On 2005-10-07, Jim <Jim> wrote:
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.

> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.

In BSAC we don't teach this any more at introductory level, but when
we did, the approved method was for the donor to hold the second
stage in such a way that the reciever was able to press the purge
button .

-- Pete

On 2005-10-07, Jim <Jim> wrote:
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.

> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.

In BSAC we don't teach this any more at introductory level, but when
we did, the approved method was for the donor to hold the second
stage in such a way that the reciever was able to press the purge
button .

-- Pete

On 2005-10-07, Jim <Jim> wrote:
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.

> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.

In BSAC we don't teach this any more at introductory level, but when
we did, the approved method was for the donor to hold the second
stage in such a way that the reciever was able to press the purge
button .

-- Pete

On 2005-10-07, Jim <Jim> wrote:
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.

> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.

In BSAC we don't teach this any more at introductory level, but when
we did, the approved method was for the donor to hold the second
stage in such a way that the reciever was able to press the purge
button .

-- Pete

On 2005-10-07, Jim <Jim> wrote:
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.

> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.

In BSAC we don't teach this any more at introductory level, but when
we did, the approved method was for the donor to hold the second
stage in such a way that the reciever was able to press the purge
button .

-- Pete

On 2005-10-07, Jim <Jim> wrote:
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.

> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.

In BSAC we don't teach this any more at introductory level, but when
we did, the approved method was for the donor to hold the second
stage in such a way that the reciever was able to press the purge
button .

-- Pete

On 2005-10-07, Jim <Jim> wrote:
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.

> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.

In BSAC we don't teach this any more at introductory level, but when
we did, the approved method was for the donor to hold the second
stage in such a way that the reciever was able to press the purge
button .

-- Pete

Jim

Who cares how you hold it as long as it appropriate to the equipment and the
divers concerned.

Saying that I no longer teach or practice Buddy breathing.

I do not dive on a single reg (I rarely dive on a single cyclinder) I do not
dive with a buddies who have a single regs.

I also dropped breathing of the ABLJ years ago.

I'd rather concentrate of other more important things like dive planning and
discapline.

Others are free to teach and practise what they wish.

Tony

ps I did a Buddy breathng ascent for real from 30m in 1987 when I had about
30 dives (pre octopus days) . We lost control of out buoyancy and Polarised
to the surface, This was due to not having enough hands to share and dump
air (You can't dump while holding your reg...). This was from 2 sports
divers who had only done Buddy breathing training (and had no problems in
the exersizes. I was one of the first to buy them selves an octopus and a
couple of years later when I was DO, we equpped alll our regs with octopus.
The origin of the problem was not poor equipment , but poor planning -
however when stressed, Buddy breathing is hard where as using an octopus is
easy

"Jim" <Jim Forrest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Wyw1f.77631$iW5.45335@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.
>
> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.
>
> Obviously BB is a method of last resort, and should not be needed with
> reducant supplies etc.
>
> However for BB which method do would people here use. I am inclined to use
> method 3, on the basis that than donor has a air supply and should
> maintain this. The receiver should be reliant on the donor (as they are
> OOA). In a worse case scenario the receiver does not get air, but at
> least the diver with air is not at undue risk, as may be the case where
> both hold reg, and neither diver gets air.
>
>
>

Jim

Who cares how you hold it as long as it appropriate to the equipment and the
divers concerned.

Saying that I no longer teach or practice Buddy breathing.

I do not dive on a single reg (I rarely dive on a single cyclinder) I do not
dive with a buddies who have a single regs.

I also dropped breathing of the ABLJ years ago.

I'd rather concentrate of other more important things like dive planning and
discapline.

Others are free to teach and practise what they wish.

Tony

ps I did a Buddy breathng ascent for real from 30m in 1987 when I had about
30 dives (pre octopus days) . We lost control of out buoyancy and Polarised
to the surface, This was due to not having enough hands to share and dump
air (You can't dump while holding your reg...). This was from 2 sports
divers who had only done Buddy breathing training (and had no problems in
the exersizes. I was one of the first to buy them selves an octopus and a
couple of years later when I was DO, we equpped alll our regs with octopus.
The origin of the problem was not poor equipment , but poor planning -
however when stressed, Buddy breathing is hard where as using an octopus is
easy

"Jim" <Jim Forrest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Wyw1f.77631$iW5.45335@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.
>
> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.
>
> Obviously BB is a method of last resort, and should not be needed with
> reducant supplies etc.
>
> However for BB which method do would people here use. I am inclined to use
> method 3, on the basis that than donor has a air supply and should
> maintain this. The receiver should be reliant on the donor (as they are
> OOA). In a worse case scenario the receiver does not get air, but at
> least the diver with air is not at undue risk, as may be the case where
> both hold reg, and neither diver gets air.
>
>
>

Jim

Who cares how you hold it as long as it appropriate to the equipment and the
divers concerned.

Saying that I no longer teach or practice Buddy breathing.

I do not dive on a single reg (I rarely dive on a single cyclinder) I do not
dive with a buddies who have a single regs.

I also dropped breathing of the ABLJ years ago.

I'd rather concentrate of other more important things like dive planning and
discapline.

Others are free to teach and practise what they wish.

Tony

ps I did a Buddy breathng ascent for real from 30m in 1987 when I had about
30 dives (pre octopus days) . We lost control of out buoyancy and Polarised
to the surface, This was due to not having enough hands to share and dump
air (You can't dump while holding your reg...). This was from 2 sports
divers who had only done Buddy breathing training (and had no problems in
the exersizes. I was one of the first to buy them selves an octopus and a
couple of years later when I was DO, we equpped alll our regs with octopus.
The origin of the problem was not poor equipment , but poor planning -
however when stressed, Buddy breathing is hard where as using an octopus is
easy

"Jim" <Jim Forrest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Wyw1f.77631$iW5.45335@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Whilst buddy breathing, I have come across several variations.
>
> 1) Donor to hold reg. Receiver to hold donors wrist
> 2) Both to hold reg hose.
> 3) Donor only to hold reg.
>
> Obviously BB is a method of last resort, and should not be needed with
> reducant supplies etc.
>
> However for BB which method do would people here use. I am inclined to use
> method 3, on the basis that than donor has a air supply and should
> maintain this. The receiver should be reliant on the donor (as they are
> OOA). In a worse case scenario the receiver does not get air, but at
> least the diver with air is not at undue risk, as may be the case where
> both hold reg, and neither diver gets air.
>
>
>