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  #11  
Old 03-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Euge
 
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Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

I second that motion. Maybe there is a "conservative" issue relative to some
computers but with the practicalities of recreational diving it's not really
a "BIG" issue, it's never bothered me. Besides, even if they are more
conservative it means that its erring on the side of caution. Also, the fact
that it is such a common/popular computer means that there's more chance of
you diving with someone with the same computer thus being on the same
algorithm.
The other computer that I considered getting at he time I bought my Vyper
was the Apeks Quantum. The Quantum has the benefit of being able to switch
gases during dive. It all depends if you think you might go that far with
twins etc. At the time, the Quantum hadn't got the pc software and hardware
so I went for the Vyper.
Euge

"Ken" <ken@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dvcupt$sf2$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Jan Smith" <jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dvcucr$bv9$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>> time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>>
>> From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to
>> go for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't
>> want a watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the
>> facility to upload data to my pc.
>>
>> I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to
>> just head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either
>> (so not worried about the capability to switch between different air
>> mixes, for example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with
>> one tank anyway).
>>
>> Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>> would be greatly appreciated.

>
> Last time this topic came up with a very similar question I suggested a
> Suunto Vyper and was severely flamed for having recommended a computer
> which was sooooo conservative on deco times. Of course it depends on what
> type of diving you want to do. Certainly it has all the features you
> describe, as well as being bombproof. It is one of the most - if not THE
> most popular computers in UK diving, and comes in at a very reasonable
> price no doubt helped by the volume of sales.
>
> If you could only ever cope with one cylinder, then extended deco dives
> are unlikely to be your passion as carrying lots of gas is not an option.
> In that case, views on (over?)cautious deco requirements are irrelevant as
> no-deco diving would be the norm. The Vyper, IMHO+FWIW, seems to fit your
> bill, represnting excellent value for money.
>
> Ken
>



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  #12  
Old 03-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Euge
 
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Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

I second that motion. Maybe there is a "conservative" issue relative to some
computers but with the practicalities of recreational diving it's not really
a "BIG" issue, it's never bothered me. Besides, even if they are more
conservative it means that its erring on the side of caution. Also, the fact
that it is such a common/popular computer means that there's more chance of
you diving with someone with the same computer thus being on the same
algorithm.
The other computer that I considered getting at he time I bought my Vyper
was the Apeks Quantum. The Quantum has the benefit of being able to switch
gases during dive. It all depends if you think you might go that far with
twins etc. At the time, the Quantum hadn't got the pc software and hardware
so I went for the Vyper.
Euge

"Ken" <ken@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dvcupt$sf2$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Jan Smith" <jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dvcucr$bv9$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>> time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>>
>> From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to
>> go for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't
>> want a watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the
>> facility to upload data to my pc.
>>
>> I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to
>> just head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either
>> (so not worried about the capability to switch between different air
>> mixes, for example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with
>> one tank anyway).
>>
>> Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>> would be greatly appreciated.

>
> Last time this topic came up with a very similar question I suggested a
> Suunto Vyper and was severely flamed for having recommended a computer
> which was sooooo conservative on deco times. Of course it depends on what
> type of diving you want to do. Certainly it has all the features you
> describe, as well as being bombproof. It is one of the most - if not THE
> most popular computers in UK diving, and comes in at a very reasonable
> price no doubt helped by the volume of sales.
>
> If you could only ever cope with one cylinder, then extended deco dives
> are unlikely to be your passion as carrying lots of gas is not an option.
> In that case, views on (over?)cautious deco requirements are irrelevant as
> no-deco diving would be the norm. The Vyper, IMHO+FWIW, seems to fit your
> bill, represnting excellent value for money.
>
> Ken
>



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  #13  
Old 03-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Euge
 
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Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

I second that motion. Maybe there is a "conservative" issue relative to some
computers but with the practicalities of recreational diving it's not really
a "BIG" issue, it's never bothered me. Besides, even if they are more
conservative it means that its erring on the side of caution. Also, the fact
that it is such a common/popular computer means that there's more chance of
you diving with someone with the same computer thus being on the same
algorithm.
The other computer that I considered getting at he time I bought my Vyper
was the Apeks Quantum. The Quantum has the benefit of being able to switch
gases during dive. It all depends if you think you might go that far with
twins etc. At the time, the Quantum hadn't got the pc software and hardware
so I went for the Vyper.
Euge

"Ken" <ken@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dvcupt$sf2$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Jan Smith" <jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dvcucr$bv9$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>> time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>>
>> From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to
>> go for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't
>> want a watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the
>> facility to upload data to my pc.
>>
>> I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to
>> just head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either
>> (so not worried about the capability to switch between different air
>> mixes, for example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with
>> one tank anyway).
>>
>> Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>> would be greatly appreciated.

>
> Last time this topic came up with a very similar question I suggested a
> Suunto Vyper and was severely flamed for having recommended a computer
> which was sooooo conservative on deco times. Of course it depends on what
> type of diving you want to do. Certainly it has all the features you
> describe, as well as being bombproof. It is one of the most - if not THE
> most popular computers in UK diving, and comes in at a very reasonable
> price no doubt helped by the volume of sales.
>
> If you could only ever cope with one cylinder, then extended deco dives
> are unlikely to be your passion as carrying lots of gas is not an option.
> In that case, views on (over?)cautious deco requirements are irrelevant as
> no-deco diving would be the norm. The Vyper, IMHO+FWIW, seems to fit your
> bill, represnting excellent value for money.
>
> Ken
>



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  #14  
Old 03-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Euge
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

I second that motion. Maybe there is a "conservative" issue relative to some
computers but with the practicalities of recreational diving it's not really
a "BIG" issue, it's never bothered me. Besides, even if they are more
conservative it means that its erring on the side of caution. Also, the fact
that it is such a common/popular computer means that there's more chance of
you diving with someone with the same computer thus being on the same
algorithm.
The other computer that I considered getting at he time I bought my Vyper
was the Apeks Quantum. The Quantum has the benefit of being able to switch
gases during dive. It all depends if you think you might go that far with
twins etc. At the time, the Quantum hadn't got the pc software and hardware
so I went for the Vyper.
Euge

"Ken" <ken@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dvcupt$sf2$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Jan Smith" <jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dvcucr$bv9$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>> time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>>
>> From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to
>> go for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't
>> want a watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the
>> facility to upload data to my pc.
>>
>> I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to
>> just head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either
>> (so not worried about the capability to switch between different air
>> mixes, for example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with
>> one tank anyway).
>>
>> Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>> would be greatly appreciated.

>
> Last time this topic came up with a very similar question I suggested a
> Suunto Vyper and was severely flamed for having recommended a computer
> which was sooooo conservative on deco times. Of course it depends on what
> type of diving you want to do. Certainly it has all the features you
> describe, as well as being bombproof. It is one of the most - if not THE
> most popular computers in UK diving, and comes in at a very reasonable
> price no doubt helped by the volume of sales.
>
> If you could only ever cope with one cylinder, then extended deco dives
> are unlikely to be your passion as carrying lots of gas is not an option.
> In that case, views on (over?)cautious deco requirements are irrelevant as
> no-deco diving would be the norm. The Vyper, IMHO+FWIW, seems to fit your
> bill, represnting excellent value for money.
>
> Ken
>



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  #15  
Old 03-17-2006, 04:19 AM
psmvsl@yahoo.co.uk
 
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Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:03:37 -0000, "Jan Smith"
<jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>
>From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to go
>for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't want a
>watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the facility to
>upload data to my pc.
>
>I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to just
>head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either (so not
>worried about the capability to switch between different air mixes, for
>example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with one tank
>anyway).
>
>Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>would be greatly appreciated.
>


Suunto Vyper - simple to use, fantastic after sales service, does
everything you want plus more, possibly a little conservative on long
stop dives
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  #16  
Old 03-17-2006, 04:19 AM
psmvsl@yahoo.co.uk
 
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Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:03:37 -0000, "Jan Smith"
<jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>
>From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to go
>for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't want a
>watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the facility to
>upload data to my pc.
>
>I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to just
>head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either (so not
>worried about the capability to switch between different air mixes, for
>example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with one tank
>anyway).
>
>Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>would be greatly appreciated.
>


Suunto Vyper - simple to use, fantastic after sales service, does
everything you want plus more, possibly a little conservative on long
stop dives
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  #17  
Old 03-17-2006, 04:19 AM
psmvsl@yahoo.co.uk
 
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Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:03:37 -0000, "Jan Smith"
<jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>
>From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to go
>for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't want a
>watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the facility to
>upload data to my pc.
>
>I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to just
>head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either (so not
>worried about the capability to switch between different air mixes, for
>example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with one tank
>anyway).
>
>Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>would be greatly appreciated.
>


Suunto Vyper - simple to use, fantastic after sales service, does
everything you want plus more, possibly a little conservative on long
stop dives
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  #18  
Old 03-17-2006, 04:19 AM
psmvsl@yahoo.co.uk
 
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Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:03:37 -0000, "Jan Smith"
<jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>
>From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to go
>for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't want a
>watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the facility to
>upload data to my pc.
>
>I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to just
>head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either (so not
>worried about the capability to switch between different air mixes, for
>example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with one tank
>anyway).
>
>Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>would be greatly appreciated.
>


Suunto Vyper - simple to use, fantastic after sales service, does
everything you want plus more, possibly a little conservative on long
stop dives
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  #19  
Old 03-17-2006, 04:19 AM
psmvsl@yahoo.co.uk
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:03:37 -0000, "Jan Smith"
<jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>
>From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to go
>for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't want a
>watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the facility to
>upload data to my pc.
>
>I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to just
>head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either (so not
>worried about the capability to switch between different air mixes, for
>example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with one tank
>anyway).
>
>Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>would be greatly appreciated.
>


Suunto Vyper - simple to use, fantastic after sales service, does
everything you want plus more, possibly a little conservative on long
stop dives
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:19 AM
psmvsl@yahoo.co.uk
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Computer advice for newbie please

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:03:37 -0000, "Jan Smith"
<jan@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Having recently got my OW certification and just come back from my first
>time diving abroad I now want to buy my own computer.
>
>From the bit of research I've done already it would seem to make sense to go
>for one that is nitrox enabled (thinking for the future). I don't want a
>watch type but would like it to be wrist mounted, and with the facility to
>upload data to my pc.
>
>I want my purchase to be an investment and so don't necessarily want to just
>head for the cheapest. Neither do I want anything too fancy either (so not
>worried about the capability to switch between different air mixes, for
>example, as I have a disability and could only ever cope with one tank
>anyway).
>
>Any advice as to models, pron/cons, where i might find any useful info,
>would be greatly appreciated.
>


Suunto Vyper - simple to use, fantastic after sales service, does
everything you want plus more, possibly a little conservative on long
stop dives
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