Buddy Line (Poll)

Soren wrote:
> Having read all the scenarios where divers can be pulled up or down
> with grave results I would like to show how lines are used in Denmark.
>
> The line consist of a waist line, that the diver ties around the
> waist and a middle line or connecting line. The diver then hook up
> using a gardena connector. The gardena connector is the ones also
> used on waterhoses. Take a look at
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/HEJs/dykning/udstyr/line-s.jpg
> It is easy to disconnect yourself from the line even if the line is
> beeing pulled. The threat is in my opinion eliminated. There could be
> other reasons not to use it such as comfort and type of dive. Just my
> 2 cents.

I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Then if something snags the line is standing out from you and you
just pull the pin and it lets go. However if your buddy just starts to
fade away rather than you don't realise that he left until he's drifted 20m
below you and is picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup
call at 3m to put some extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
hand for a quick assessment.

Details when it's all together.

nigelH

Soren wrote:
> Having read all the scenarios where divers can be pulled up or down
> with grave results I would like to show how lines are used in Denmark.
>
> The line consist of a waist line, that the diver ties around the
> waist and a middle line or connecting line. The diver then hook up
> using a gardena connector. The gardena connector is the ones also
> used on waterhoses. Take a look at
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/HEJs/dykning/udstyr/line-s.jpg
> It is easy to disconnect yourself from the line even if the line is
> beeing pulled. The threat is in my opinion eliminated. There could be
> other reasons not to use it such as comfort and type of dive. Just my
> 2 cents.

I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Then if something snags the line is standing out from you and you
just pull the pin and it lets go. However if your buddy just starts to
fade away rather than you don't realise that he left until he's drifted 20m
below you and is picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup
call at 3m to put some extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
hand for a quick assessment.

Details when it's all together.

nigelH

Soren wrote:
> Having read all the scenarios where divers can be pulled up or down
> with grave results I would like to show how lines are used in Denmark.
>
> The line consist of a waist line, that the diver ties around the
> waist and a middle line or connecting line. The diver then hook up
> using a gardena connector. The gardena connector is the ones also
> used on waterhoses. Take a look at
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/HEJs/dykning/udstyr/line-s.jpg
> It is easy to disconnect yourself from the line even if the line is
> beeing pulled. The threat is in my opinion eliminated. There could be
> other reasons not to use it such as comfort and type of dive. Just my
> 2 cents.

I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Then if something snags the line is standing out from you and you
just pull the pin and it lets go. However if your buddy just starts to
fade away rather than you don't realise that he left until he's drifted 20m
below you and is picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup
call at 3m to put some extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
hand for a quick assessment.

Details when it's all together.

nigelH

Soren wrote:
> Having read all the scenarios where divers can be pulled up or down
> with grave results I would like to show how lines are used in Denmark.
>
> The line consist of a waist line, that the diver ties around the
> waist and a middle line or connecting line. The diver then hook up
> using a gardena connector. The gardena connector is the ones also
> used on waterhoses. Take a look at
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/HEJs/dykning/udstyr/line-s.jpg
> It is easy to disconnect yourself from the line even if the line is
> beeing pulled. The threat is in my opinion eliminated. There could be
> other reasons not to use it such as comfort and type of dive. Just my
> 2 cents.

I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Then if something snags the line is standing out from you and you
just pull the pin and it lets go. However if your buddy just starts to
fade away rather than you don't realise that he left until he's drifted 20m
below you and is picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup
call at 3m to put some extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
hand for a quick assessment.

Details when it's all together.

nigelH

Soren wrote:
> Having read all the scenarios where divers can be pulled up or down
> with grave results I would like to show how lines are used in Denmark.
>
> The line consist of a waist line, that the diver ties around the
> waist and a middle line or connecting line. The diver then hook up
> using a gardena connector. The gardena connector is the ones also
> used on waterhoses. Take a look at
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/HEJs/dykning/udstyr/line-s.jpg
> It is easy to disconnect yourself from the line even if the line is
> beeing pulled. The threat is in my opinion eliminated. There could be
> other reasons not to use it such as comfort and type of dive. Just my
> 2 cents.

I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Then if something snags the line is standing out from you and you
just pull the pin and it lets go. However if your buddy just starts to
fade away rather than you don't realise that he left until he's drifted 20m
below you and is picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup
call at 3m to put some extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
hand for a quick assessment.

Details when it's all together.

nigelH

Soren wrote:
> Having read all the scenarios where divers can be pulled up or down
> with grave results I would like to show how lines are used in Denmark.
>
> The line consist of a waist line, that the diver ties around the
> waist and a middle line or connecting line. The diver then hook up
> using a gardena connector. The gardena connector is the ones also
> used on waterhoses. Take a look at
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/HEJs/dykning/udstyr/line-s.jpg
> It is easy to disconnect yourself from the line even if the line is
> beeing pulled. The threat is in my opinion eliminated. There could be
> other reasons not to use it such as comfort and type of dive. Just my
> 2 cents.

I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Then if something snags the line is standing out from you and you
just pull the pin and it lets go. However if your buddy just starts to
fade away rather than you don't realise that he left until he's drifted 20m
below you and is picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup
call at 3m to put some extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
hand for a quick assessment.

Details when it's all together.

nigelH

Nigel Hewitt wrote

> I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
> What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
> yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
> then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Sounds more complex than the device you've already been shown. A simple
grab and pull on the hose connection will release the line and, because it's
plastic, it won't corrode, rust or any of the other nasty things that are
likely to cause it not to release if/when it needs to.

> However if your buddy just starts to fade away rather than you don't
> realise that he left until he's drifted 20m below you and is
> picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup call at 3m to put some
> extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
> hand for a quick assessment.

This all sounds like a great solution to a problem that doesn't, and
shouldn't exist. Personally, I've not had a buddy fade away, let alone had
one do so unnoticed long enough for him to descent 20 meters below me
without notice. Were I to be so inattentive as to allow something like that
to happen, I don't think I'd have the nerve to call myself that person's
buddy and I'm reasonably certain that I'd not be teathered to someone who is
not my buddy. Perhaps your experience is different, but I'd be surprised if
it is.

While I've never had a buddy drift away, I've had a rare one or two bolt for
the surface at a speed I would not chose to imitate. I'm not at all certain
that I, or anyone else, would be able to realize what was happening, realize
I'm teathered to the rocket man and disconnect myself from him before any
damage that can be done, is done.

Lee

Nigel Hewitt wrote

> I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
> What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
> yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
> then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Sounds more complex than the device you've already been shown. A simple
grab and pull on the hose connection will release the line and, because it's
plastic, it won't corrode, rust or any of the other nasty things that are
likely to cause it not to release if/when it needs to.

> However if your buddy just starts to fade away rather than you don't
> realise that he left until he's drifted 20m below you and is
> picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup call at 3m to put some
> extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
> hand for a quick assessment.

This all sounds like a great solution to a problem that doesn't, and
shouldn't exist. Personally, I've not had a buddy fade away, let alone had
one do so unnoticed long enough for him to descent 20 meters below me
without notice. Were I to be so inattentive as to allow something like that
to happen, I don't think I'd have the nerve to call myself that person's
buddy and I'm reasonably certain that I'd not be teathered to someone who is
not my buddy. Perhaps your experience is different, but I'd be surprised if
it is.

While I've never had a buddy drift away, I've had a rare one or two bolt for
the surface at a speed I would not chose to imitate. I'm not at all certain
that I, or anyone else, would be able to realize what was happening, realize
I'm teathered to the rocket man and disconnect myself from him before any
damage that can be done, is done.

Lee

Nigel Hewitt wrote

> I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
> What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
> yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
> then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Sounds more complex than the device you've already been shown. A simple
grab and pull on the hose connection will release the line and, because it's
plastic, it won't corrode, rust or any of the other nasty things that are
likely to cause it not to release if/when it needs to.

> However if your buddy just starts to fade away rather than you don't
> realise that he left until he's drifted 20m below you and is
> picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup call at 3m to put some
> extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
> hand for a quick assessment.

This all sounds like a great solution to a problem that doesn't, and
shouldn't exist. Personally, I've not had a buddy fade away, let alone had
one do so unnoticed long enough for him to descent 20 meters below me
without notice. Were I to be so inattentive as to allow something like that
to happen, I don't think I'd have the nerve to call myself that person's
buddy and I'm reasonably certain that I'd not be teathered to someone who is
not my buddy. Perhaps your experience is different, but I'd be surprised if
it is.

While I've never had a buddy drift away, I've had a rare one or two bolt for
the surface at a speed I would not chose to imitate. I'm not at all certain
that I, or anyone else, would be able to realize what was happening, realize
I'm teathered to the rocket man and disconnect myself from him before any
damage that can be done, is done.

Lee

Nigel Hewitt wrote

> I've been thinking about this and I've ordered the parts to make one.
> What I want is two nice diver style gate clip attached to two of those
> yottie pull the pin clips that will release under huge sail loads and
> then 2 or 3m of 2cm, gloved hand friendly ribbon between them.

Sounds more complex than the device you've already been shown. A simple
grab and pull on the hose connection will release the line and, because it's
plastic, it won't corrode, rust or any of the other nasty things that are
likely to cause it not to release if/when it needs to.

> However if your buddy just starts to fade away rather than you don't
> realise that he left until he's drifted 20m below you and is
> picking up speed what happens is you get a wakeup call at 3m to put some
> extra gas in your wing then haul him in hand over
> hand for a quick assessment.

This all sounds like a great solution to a problem that doesn't, and
shouldn't exist. Personally, I've not had a buddy fade away, let alone had
one do so unnoticed long enough for him to descent 20 meters below me
without notice. Were I to be so inattentive as to allow something like that
to happen, I don't think I'd have the nerve to call myself that person's
buddy and I'm reasonably certain that I'd not be teathered to someone who is
not my buddy. Perhaps your experience is different, but I'd be surprised if
it is.

While I've never had a buddy drift away, I've had a rare one or two bolt for
the surface at a speed I would not chose to imitate. I'm not at all certain
that I, or anyone else, would be able to realize what was happening, realize
I'm teathered to the rocket man and disconnect myself from him before any
damage that can be done, is done.

Lee