Buddy Line (Poll)

Robert wrote:
>
> I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom,

'Nigel the Sage'?
What are you smoking?
Can I have some?


Deco on a buddy line....
I commented on a post on RBW about a recent double fatality to
this effect a week or more ago and it was totally ignored as usual.
I heard a more detailed report from somebody with better information
than I have seen published and it confirmed the idea.

nigelH

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:51:22 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<nigelhewitt@REMOVEhotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>andre.maier@gmx.net wrote:
>> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
>> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
>> possible.
>
>I am developing the idea that doing deco attaching yourself to a buddy
>with a line is a far better way of dealing with a problem if they loose
>the plot and start to sink than going after them. If I am flooded with a
>high ppO2 mix to would be far better to add some buoyancy and then
>pull the line to bring them back up to my level than to dive after them.
>
>We all try to say things about how you should not put yourself at risk
>to accomplish a rescue but if you've known them for years, you know
>their wife and kids, you will not just watch them sink out of sight. We
>should plan to make it safer.
>
>nigelH
>


I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom, yes,
was thinking similar but too shy to say so.

Was wondering just how many 'He just dropped out of sight' occurences
world wide this might save.

Regards

Rob

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:51:22 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<nigelhewitt@REMOVEhotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>andre.maier@gmx.net wrote:
>> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
>> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
>> possible.
>
>I am developing the idea that doing deco attaching yourself to a buddy
>with a line is a far better way of dealing with a problem if they loose
>the plot and start to sink than going after them. If I am flooded with a
>high ppO2 mix to would be far better to add some buoyancy and then
>pull the line to bring them back up to my level than to dive after them.
>
>We all try to say things about how you should not put yourself at risk
>to accomplish a rescue but if you've known them for years, you know
>their wife and kids, you will not just watch them sink out of sight. We
>should plan to make it safer.
>
>nigelH
>


I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom, yes,
was thinking similar but too shy to say so.

Was wondering just how many 'He just dropped out of sight' occurences
world wide this might save.

Regards

Rob

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:51:22 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<nigelhewitt@REMOVEhotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>andre.maier@gmx.net wrote:
>> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
>> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
>> possible.
>
>I am developing the idea that doing deco attaching yourself to a buddy
>with a line is a far better way of dealing with a problem if they loose
>the plot and start to sink than going after them. If I am flooded with a
>high ppO2 mix to would be far better to add some buoyancy and then
>pull the line to bring them back up to my level than to dive after them.
>
>We all try to say things about how you should not put yourself at risk
>to accomplish a rescue but if you've known them for years, you know
>their wife and kids, you will not just watch them sink out of sight. We
>should plan to make it safer.
>
>nigelH
>


I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom, yes,
was thinking similar but too shy to say so.

Was wondering just how many 'He just dropped out of sight' occurences
world wide this might save.

Regards

Rob

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:51:22 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<nigelhewitt@REMOVEhotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>andre.maier@gmx.net wrote:
>> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
>> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
>> possible.
>
>I am developing the idea that doing deco attaching yourself to a buddy
>with a line is a far better way of dealing with a problem if they loose
>the plot and start to sink than going after them. If I am flooded with a
>high ppO2 mix to would be far better to add some buoyancy and then
>pull the line to bring them back up to my level than to dive after them.
>
>We all try to say things about how you should not put yourself at risk
>to accomplish a rescue but if you've known them for years, you know
>their wife and kids, you will not just watch them sink out of sight. We
>should plan to make it safer.
>
>nigelH
>


I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom, yes,
was thinking similar but too shy to say so.

Was wondering just how many 'He just dropped out of sight' occurences
world wide this might save.

Regards

Rob

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:51:22 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<nigelhewitt@REMOVEhotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>andre.maier@gmx.net wrote:
>> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
>> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
>> possible.
>
>I am developing the idea that doing deco attaching yourself to a buddy
>with a line is a far better way of dealing with a problem if they loose
>the plot and start to sink than going after them. If I am flooded with a
>high ppO2 mix to would be far better to add some buoyancy and then
>pull the line to bring them back up to my level than to dive after them.
>
>We all try to say things about how you should not put yourself at risk
>to accomplish a rescue but if you've known them for years, you know
>their wife and kids, you will not just watch them sink out of sight. We
>should plan to make it safer.
>
>nigelH
>


I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom, yes,
was thinking similar but too shy to say so.

Was wondering just how many 'He just dropped out of sight' occurences
world wide this might save.

Regards

Rob

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:51:22 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<nigelhewitt@REMOVEhotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>andre.maier@gmx.net wrote:
>> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
>> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
>> possible.
>
>I am developing the idea that doing deco attaching yourself to a buddy
>with a line is a far better way of dealing with a problem if they loose
>the plot and start to sink than going after them. If I am flooded with a
>high ppO2 mix to would be far better to add some buoyancy and then
>pull the line to bring them back up to my level than to dive after them.
>
>We all try to say things about how you should not put yourself at risk
>to accomplish a rescue but if you've known them for years, you know
>their wife and kids, you will not just watch them sink out of sight. We
>should plan to make it safer.
>
>nigelH
>


I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom, yes,
was thinking similar but too shy to say so.

Was wondering just how many 'He just dropped out of sight' occurences
world wide this might save.

Regards

Rob

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:51:22 +0100, "Nigel Hewitt"
<nigelhewitt@REMOVEhotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>andre.maier@gmx.net wrote:
>> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
>> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
>> possible.
>
>I am developing the idea that doing deco attaching yourself to a buddy
>with a line is a far better way of dealing with a problem if they loose
>the plot and start to sink than going after them. If I am flooded with a
>high ppO2 mix to would be far better to add some buoyancy and then
>pull the line to bring them back up to my level than to dive after them.
>
>We all try to say things about how you should not put yourself at risk
>to accomplish a rescue but if you've known them for years, you know
>their wife and kids, you will not just watch them sink out of sight. We
>should plan to make it safer.
>
>nigelH
>


I was just waiting for 'Nigel The Sage' and his words of wisdom, yes,
was thinking similar but too shy to say so.

Was wondering just how many 'He just dropped out of sight' occurences
world wide this might save.

Regards

Rob

Vulcan Bomber (101 Squadron)

<andre.maier@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:1151171606.564453.175980@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
> possible.
>
> So I'd be glad if you could post your opinion and experience by
> answering the two questions below.
>
> The only purpose of this poll is to collect as much ideas as possible,
> so at this point your level certification or experience doesn't matter.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andre

Hi Andre, a little more introduction would be nice. What is the nature of
your thesis? Which academic institution are you doing your scientific
research at, and what are you attempting to achieve through this research?

I regret that reading your post it just 'smells' like a troll to me -
perhaps I am too cynical.

In my experience someone carrying out research usually has a theory, an
experiment is then designed to test it and only following that is the data
collected... How are you ensuring valid data is collected and where are
your controls?

Finally, I can think of no circumstances under which I would allow anyone to
connect themselves to me using a 'buddy line'. For me the answer to your
first question is 'none' and the answer to your second is 'every'.

Regards,

M

<andre.maier@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:1151171606.564453.175980@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm about to investigate the pros and cons of using a buddy line on a
> scientific basis. In the first step I need to acquire as much data as
> possible.
>
> So I'd be glad if you could post your opinion and experience by
> answering the two questions below.
>
> The only purpose of this poll is to collect as much ideas as possible,
> so at this point your level certification or experience doesn't matter.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andre

Hi Andre, a little more introduction would be nice. What is the nature of
your thesis? Which academic institution are you doing your scientific
research at, and what are you attempting to achieve through this research?

I regret that reading your post it just 'smells' like a troll to me -
perhaps I am too cynical.

In my experience someone carrying out research usually has a theory, an
experiment is then designed to test it and only following that is the data
collected... How are you ensuring valid data is collected and where are
your controls?

Finally, I can think of no circumstances under which I would allow anyone to
connect themselves to me using a 'buddy line'. For me the answer to your
first question is 'none' and the answer to your second is 'every'.

Regards,

M