Dive Master Training ?

Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



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Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



--
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Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



--
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Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



--
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Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:

> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.

That's enough for Dive Master.

The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
into the big wide world.

Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
believe the hype that frighten me.

nigelH



--
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Nigel Hewitt wrote:
> Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:
>
>> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
>> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
>> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
>> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.
>
> That's enough for Dive Master.
>
> The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
> Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
> quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
> of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
> are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

Thats not what DM *SHOULD* only be, if thats all they are being taught
then QA the dive center!

What about the following:
8 exams:
1. Physics,
2. Physiology and First Aid,
3. Equipment,
4. Decompression Theory and the RDP,
5. Dive Skills and the Environment,
6. Supervising Activities for Certified Divers,
7. Supervising Student Divers in Training,
8. PADI Divemaster Conducted Pro-grams.

none of which are a 'gimmee'

20 key skills to demo standard, not just mask clear!

4 endurance tasks - 400m swim, 800m snorker swim, 100m tired diver tow,
15min tred water,

Rescue assesment
Mapping project


If you are doing it as an internship you need to do 5 (high) marked
assesments for assisting in each of confined and open water


>
> The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
> who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
> 'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
> short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
> are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
> into the big wide world.

Yes, I don't agree with the fast-track - this one (which might be very
good for all I know) http://home.hetnet.nl/~jelout/divemaster.html
will fast track you in 7-14 days.

How the hell can you do the study for the exams alone in a week let
alone the entire course.
Its a joke.




>
> Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
> believe the hype that frighten me.
>
> nigelH
>
>
>

Nigel Hewitt wrote:
> Rick Hughes <rick_hughes@btconnect.com> wrote:
>
>> Just completed a dive package at a PADI CDC place in Turkey, quite a few
>> people on DiveMaster Internships, be interested in this newsgroups view on
>> the 'Zero to Hero' scheme, takes them from nothing, through Open water > ADV
>>> Rescue to Divemaster in 6 weeks ....
>> But is this enough experience ? and all in one place.
>
> That's enough for Dive Master.
>
> The problem is that people have an over inflated view of what
> Dive Master means. DM means Rescue Diver with a demonstration
> quality mask clear and 60 dives. There are DMs with thousands
> of dives and extensive knowledge but that's not because they
> are a DM but because of what they are like as people.

Thats not what DM *SHOULD* only be, if thats all they are being taught
then QA the dive center!

What about the following:
8 exams:
1. Physics,
2. Physiology and First Aid,
3. Equipment,
4. Decompression Theory and the RDP,
5. Dive Skills and the Environment,
6. Supervising Activities for Certified Divers,
7. Supervising Student Divers in Training,
8. PADI Divemaster Conducted Pro-grams.

none of which are a 'gimmee'

20 key skills to demo standard, not just mask clear!

4 endurance tasks - 400m swim, 800m snorker swim, 100m tired diver tow,
15min tred water,

Rescue assesment
Mapping project


If you are doing it as an internship you need to do 5 (high) marked
assesments for assisting in each of confined and open water


>
> The people I feel sorry for are the poor fast-tracked students
> who do, as you said, end up wondering where they missed on the
> 'Dive God' injections. They have seen enough of life doing a
> short internship to know how little they know and yet here they
> are getting the badge, the big handshake and are being sent out
> into the big wide world.

Yes, I don't agree with the fast-track - this one (which might be very
good for all I know) http://home.hetnet.nl/~jelout/divemaster.html
will fast track you in 7-14 days.

How the hell can you do the study for the exams alone in a week let
alone the entire course.
Its a joke.




>
> Those that are worried are the good ones. It's the ones that
> believe the hype that frighten me.
>
> nigelH
>
>
>