Advice Needed - Wing

On Feb 14, 3:06 am, "Lee Bell" <pleebe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> water. With my stainless plate and the same tanks, I use nothing. I'm very
> slightly heavy at the beginning of the dive and very slightly buoyant at the
> end, but I generally do the entire dive with no gas in my wing. It suits me
> that well. Imagine diving with no shift in buoyancy due to changes in depth
> and you'll have an idea how great perfect, or near pefect weighting can be.

I experienced the same during my only time diving in warm water
wearing
a shorty. The mobility and having effortless bouyancy control without
fiddling
with a BCD was a revelation. I'd been used to the "Titanic" feeling
in my
neoprene drysuit, 8kg weight belt and ankle weights (which I've since
dispensed
with).

On Feb 14, 3:06 am, "Lee Bell" <pleebe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> water. With my stainless plate and the same tanks, I use nothing. I'm very
> slightly heavy at the beginning of the dive and very slightly buoyant at the
> end, but I generally do the entire dive with no gas in my wing. It suits me
> that well. Imagine diving with no shift in buoyancy due to changes in depth
> and you'll have an idea how great perfect, or near pefect weighting can be.

I experienced the same during my only time diving in warm water
wearing
a shorty. The mobility and having effortless bouyancy control without
fiddling
with a BCD was a revelation. I'd been used to the "Titanic" feeling
in my
neoprene drysuit, 8kg weight belt and ankle weights (which I've since
dispensed
with).

On Feb 14, 3:06 am, "Lee Bell" <pleebe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> water. With my stainless plate and the same tanks, I use nothing. I'm very
> slightly heavy at the beginning of the dive and very slightly buoyant at the
> end, but I generally do the entire dive with no gas in my wing. It suits me
> that well. Imagine diving with no shift in buoyancy due to changes in depth
> and you'll have an idea how great perfect, or near pefect weighting can be.

I experienced the same during my only time diving in warm water
wearing
a shorty. The mobility and having effortless bouyancy control without
fiddling
with a BCD was a revelation. I'd been used to the "Titanic" feeling
in my
neoprene drysuit, 8kg weight belt and ankle weights (which I've since
dispensed
with).

On Feb 14, 3:06 am, "Lee Bell" <pleebe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> water. With my stainless plate and the same tanks, I use nothing. I'm very
> slightly heavy at the beginning of the dive and very slightly buoyant at the
> end, but I generally do the entire dive with no gas in my wing. It suits me
> that well. Imagine diving with no shift in buoyancy due to changes in depth
> and you'll have an idea how great perfect, or near pefect weighting can be.

I experienced the same during my only time diving in warm water
wearing
a shorty. The mobility and having effortless bouyancy control without
fiddling
with a BCD was a revelation. I'd been used to the "Titanic" feeling
in my
neoprene drysuit, 8kg weight belt and ankle weights (which I've since
dispensed
with).

Been diving up to now with a BCD + 12L or 15L with 3L Pony but need 2nd set
of gear. Having briefly used a wing and twinset (only in the pool) and
found it very comfortable, have decided to go that route..

I've been offered a second hand setup with twin 7L 300's banded with SDS
quick release, MDE manifold, Custom Dive valve protector and Dive Rite Rec
Wings Transpac 11.

Doing a Google, it appears the Rec Wing comes in 2 versions with either a
backplate or the version this is, with a stiff pad. The SDS quick release
is bolted through this pad and seems to flex from side to side a bit. Any
ideas? Should this release system only be used with a backplate? Can a
backplate be added to the existing harness or not?

Graham.

Graham Frankland wrote:
> Been diving up to now with a BCD + 12L or 15L with 3L Pony but need 2nd set
> of gear. Having briefly used a wing and twinset (only in the pool) and
> found it very comfortable, have decided to go that route..
>
> I've been offered a second hand setup with twin 7L 300's banded with SDS
> quick release, MDE manifold, Custom Dive valve protector and Dive Rite Rec
> Wings Transpac 11.
>
> Doing a Google, it appears the Rec Wing comes in 2 versions with either a
> backplate or the version this is, with a stiff pad. The SDS quick release
> is bolted through this pad and seems to flex from side to side a bit. Any
> ideas? Should this release system only be used with a backplate? Can a
> backplate be added to the existing harness or not?

Hey Graham,

the RecWing and the TransPack are two completely separate bits, and
you can use them independently. I have a RecWing mounted on a normal
metal backplate while a friend of mine uses it with both a TransPac or a
plate. You can't add backplate to the TransPac harness, but seeing as
webbing costs about 1¤/m, this should hardly be an issue?

300bar tanks are a tad heavy; I've tried the TransPac/RecWing with
2x7@200 tanks (7.5kg each), and it was quite ok although the backplate
setup is a bit more steady. On the DiveRite site though it says you can
use it with doubles just fine (doesn't tell you the sizes though --
http://www.diverite.com/Products/pro...8&CategoryID=3)

You could get an extra backplate/harness for this setup, and use the
wing/backplate with the twins and transpac/wing with single tanks.

/Marcin

"Marcin Dobrucki" <Marcin.Dobrucki@TAKETHISAWAY.nokia.com> wrote in message
news:WZY%g.41022$Nb2.774245@news1.nokia.com...
> Graham Frankland wrote:
>> Been diving up to now with a BCD + 12L or 15L with 3L Pony but need 2nd
>> set of gear. Having briefly used a wing and twinset (only in the pool)
>> and found it very comfortable, have decided to go that route..
>>
>> I've been offered a second hand setup with twin 7L 300's banded with SDS
>> quick release, MDE manifold, Custom Dive valve protector and Dive Rite
>> Rec Wings Transpac 11.
>>
>> Doing a Google, it appears the Rec Wing comes in 2 versions with either a
>> backplate or the version this is, with a stiff pad. The SDS quick
>> release is bolted through this pad and seems to flex from side to side a
>> bit. Any ideas? Should this release system only be used with a
>> backplate? Can a backplate be added to the existing harness or not?
>
> Hey Graham,
>
> the RecWing and the TransPack are two completely separate bits, and you
> can use them independently. I have a RecWing mounted on a normal metal
> backplate while a friend of mine uses it with both a TransPac or a plate.
> You can't add backplate to the TransPac harness, but seeing as webbing
> costs about 1¤/m, this should hardly be an issue?
>
> 300bar tanks are a tad heavy; I've tried the TransPac/RecWing with
> 2x7@200 tanks (7.5kg each), and it was quite ok although the backplate
> setup is a bit more steady. On the DiveRite site though it says you can
> use it with doubles just fine (doesn't tell you the sizes though --
> http://www.diverite.com/Products/pro...8&CategoryID=3)
>
> You could get an extra backplate/harness for this setup, and use the
> wing/backplate with the twins and transpac/wing with single tanks.
>
> /Marcin
>
Thanks for reply Marcin, I purchased the gear today.
Graham.

Marcin Dobrucki wrote:
> Hey Graham,
>
> the RecWing and the TransPack are two completely separate bits, and
> you can use them independently. I have a RecWing mounted on a normal
> metal backplate while a friend of mine uses it with both a TransPac or a
> plate. You can't add backplate to the TransPac harness, but seeing as
> webbing costs about 1¤/m, this should hardly be an issue?
>
> 300bar tanks are a tad heavy; I've tried the TransPac/RecWing with
> 2x7@200 tanks (7.5kg each), and it was quite ok although the backplate
> setup is a bit more steady. On the DiveRite site though it says you can
> use it with doubles just fine (doesn't tell you the sizes though --
> http://www.diverite.com/Products/pro...8&CategoryID=3)
>
>
> You could get an extra backplate/harness for this setup, and use the
> wing/backplate with the twins and transpac/wing with single tanks.
>
> /Marcin


Hi Marcin,

So what is your opinion of diving singles with a wing? I have recently
bought a 30lb singles-wing with SS BP and STA and been advised that I
should stick with my Masterjacket for singles (especially in warm
waters) and just use the wing for twinsets. The rig weighs about 5kg out
of the water and I usually take 4-6kg with a 5mm wetsuit. I'm going to
the Maldives next week and trying to get some pool time to play with the
wing, but am itching to try it in open water.

Andy

Andy Grey wrote:
> Marcin Dobrucki wrote:
> > Hey Graham,
>>
>> the RecWing and the TransPack are two completely separate bits, and
>> you can use them independently. I have a RecWing mounted on a normal
>> metal backplate while a friend of mine uses it with both a TransPac or
>> a plate. You can't add backplate to the TransPac harness, but seeing
>> as webbing costs about 1¤/m, this should hardly be an issue?
>>
>> 300bar tanks are a tad heavy; I've tried the TransPac/RecWing with
>> 2x7@200 tanks (7.5kg each), and it was quite ok although the backplate
>> setup is a bit more steady. On the DiveRite site though it says you
>> can use it with doubles just fine (doesn't tell you the sizes though
>> --
>> http://www.diverite.com/Products/pro...8&CategoryID=3)
>>
>>
>> You could get an extra backplate/harness for this setup, and use the
>> wing/backplate with the twins and transpac/wing with single tanks.
>>
>> /Marcin
>
>
> Hi Marcin,
>
> So what is your opinion of diving singles with a wing? I have recently
> bought a 30lb singles-wing with SS BP and STA and been advised that I
> should stick with my Masterjacket for singles (especially in warm
> waters) and just use the wing for twinsets. The rig weighs about 5kg out
> of the water and I usually take 4-6kg with a 5mm wetsuit. I'm going to
> the Maldives next week and trying to get some pool time to play with the
> wing, but am itching to try it in open water.
>
> Andy


I use my wing on a single tank rig. I would never go back to using a
jacket style BC for any of the diving I do. The wing is so much more
comfortable, stable and streamlined than any jacket I have ever used. I
use an Al BP, the SS will allow you to shed some weight off the belt.

In article <45d19731$0$5171$9b622d9e@news.freenet.de>, Andy Grey
<andy0grey@REMOVEgmail.com> writes
>Zen Diver wrote:
>Now my only problem is staying inside my weight allowance for the plane
>:)


Pack your dive gear in a golf bag. They normally allow more extra (over
sport allowance) if you are a golfer )
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Mick Whittingham
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