Texas Bans Remote Hunting

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:59:55 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote:

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>"JOF" <johnfrancis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>> <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote:
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>> I missed that part in the original post, but as I responded to Dennis
>> on this, fine by me as long as all hunters who use the remote deal are
>> prepared to acknowledge that they are disabled, just like the folks
>> who use disabled parking spaces. They should be entitled to a break.
>
> I'm gonna bet that's constitutional...

Fair enough.

>> > Or the ecologically detrimental effects of game herd overpopulation?
>> >
>> Nothing wrong with culling or controlling rampant population expansion
>> when it threatens the ecology.
>
> Should we put the military on that, then?

No need to. There's lots of hunters out there ready, willing and able.
Put that enthusiasm to good use.

> Just mow down the excess and leave it to rot?

Hopefully not.

JF

I've learned that life is tough, but I'm tougher.
But I've also learned that under everyone's hard
shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved.

"JOF" <johnfrancis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:42:25 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> > I caught the armed game thing, but thought we were referring to
rational
> >discourse.
> >
> This is rec.scuba

Set your goals low enough, and, sure enough, you'll acheive them.

> > You've made several indefendable statements, so far indicting yourself,
> >and your uncle the Great White Hunter.
>
> I don't know that he ever characterized himself as a great white
> hunter,

He didn't, but he fits all the derogatory definitions you've assessed the
title you introduced.

He'd be proud, I'm sure.

> Which statements are "undefendable"? I'm a tad curious about that one.

Every premise you've offered in this thread, referring to hunting or
weapons.

From hand-to-hand Grizzly combat to shriveled peas to every truck having a
remote weapon on the roof, to your society of killers.

Start with your very first post, and watch it snowball.

Especially compared to your lifestyle, using as much or more animal
byproduct as anyone.

"Hunting is distastful, but I got more leather than a Frisco biker bar"



--
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Admiral Keiji Shibasaki, 4 days before his death.

"JOF" <johnfrancis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:40:43 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote:
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> >
<snip>
>
> > Spend a few cold, wet hunting seasons humping up and down mountain side
> >trying to even -glimpse- a deer, you might have a different opinion.
>
> If you knew some dude with a gun was hunting for you, would you be
> jumping out in front of him and going "Na-Na-Na, ya can't catch me"? I
> think not. You'd either be running for the hills, or arming up to make
> it a fair fight.

John, remeber you're talking to Popeye. I doubt he'd need to arm up.
I'm rather confident he'd have the dude neutralized in short order, keeping
a smile on his face.

<snip>

>
> >> How many great white hunters would still be in the game if the bears
> >> carried autoloaders and had the manual dexterity and the intellectual
> >> capacity to use 'em? Methinks there'd be a sudden drop in hunting
> >> license apps.
> >
> > You'd be wrong.
> >
> > Consider those that choose military and law enforcement careers.
>
> I'm glad some do, but what has that to do with armed bears?

Just that there would be some folks who'd see the armed bears as better,
more challenging opponents.

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>
> JF
>
> I've learned that life is tough, but I'm tougher.
> But I've also learned that under everyone's hard
> shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved.

Dennis

"Scott" wrote in message news:dtZ5e.13$hT3.1682@news.uswest.net...
> He has my respect.

Smaller bears in Florida than the Pacific Northwest... When I was stationed
in Norfolk, we would go down to North Carolina to hunt bear with a .45...

"chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
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> "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> (snip)> "Why ban it for somebody who doesn't have the opportunity to be
> there,"
> > Lockwood said. "It's as close as you can get to a hunt on an exotic
ranch
> > without actually being there."
>
> Why doesn't he just get a "gameboy"?

For the same reason you get to wear shoes and vote.

--
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Admiral Keiji Shibasaki, 4 days before his death.

"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
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> > "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> > >
> > (snip)> "Why ban it for somebody who doesn't have the opportunity to be
> > there,"
> > > Lockwood said. "It's as close as you can get to a hunt on an exotic
> ranch
> > > without actually being there."
> >
> > Why doesn't he just get a "gameboy"?
>
> For the same reason you get to wear shoes and vote.

"Me personally, I think the idea of internet hunting is preposterous."

"chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
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> "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> (snip)> "Why ban it for somebody who doesn't have the opportunity to be
> there,"
> > Lockwood said. "It's as close as you can get to a hunt on an exotic
ranch
> > without actually being there."
>
> Why doesn't he just get a "gameboy"?
>
>
>

Because you don't get a nice trophy, or meat, from a game boy.

Dennis

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> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
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> > > "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:d9c5f$42588fd6$45010e17$29469@KNOLOGY.NET...
> > > >
> > > (snip)> "Why ban it for somebody who doesn't have the opportunity to
be
> > > there,"
> > > > Lockwood said. "It's as close as you can get to a hunt on an exotic
> > ranch
> > > > without actually being there."
> > >
> > > Why doesn't he just get a "gameboy"?
> >
> > For the same reason you get to wear shoes and vote.
>
> "Me personally, I think the idea of internet hunting is preposterous."

And your point?


--
One million Marines cannot seize Tarawa in a thousand years.
Admiral Keiji Shibasaki, 4 days before his death.

JOF wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:59:30 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
> <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>I don't hunt period, so I suppose in that sense you could say I have a
>>>problem with hunting of any kind. It's not that I'm against hunting in
>>>principle, just that I guess I had enough killing when I worked a few
>>>summers in a slaughterhouse killing pigs, cattle and sheep because the
>>>idea of killing for sport holds no appeal for me.
>>

>>>I'd like to see some of our
>>>great white hunter types go up against a Kodiak, or even a little
>>>bitty Grizzly, mano a mano, or even armed with knives.
>>
>> That's perfectly fair, eh?
>
>
> How many great white hunters would still be in the game if the bears
> carried autoloaders and had the manual dexterity and the intellectual
> capacity to use 'em? Methinks there'd be a sudden drop in hunting
> license apps.

Kind of what I courts, judges, and gun grabbers have done. Take away
the ability to defend ourselves and let the criminals stay armed.
>
>
>> I'd like to see you spend one week bow hunting, then come back and tell us
>>how "sporting" you think it was.
>
>

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 21:30:56 -0500, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
<nojunkmail@ever.invalid> wrote:

>"JOF" <johnfrancis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:40:43 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>> <Buzcutt454@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
><snip>
>>
>> > Spend a few cold, wet hunting seasons humping up and down mountain side
>> >trying to even -glimpse- a deer, you might have a different opinion.
>>
>> If you knew some dude with a gun was hunting for you, would you be
>> jumping out in front of him and going "Na-Na-Na, ya can't catch me"? I
>> think not. You'd either be running for the hills, or arming up to make
>> it a fair fight.
>
>John, remeber you're talking to Popeye. I doubt he'd need to arm up.
>I'm rather confident he'd have the dude neutralized in short order, keeping
>a smile on his face.
>
Yeah. I know, but he's the exception to the rule. If everybody was
like him the world would be a safer place. The bars would be full of
guys interested in nothing but charming women. They wouldn't have
tiime to fight and shoot.

JF

I've learned that life is tough, but I'm tougher.
But I've also learned that under everyone's hard
shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved.