My March Florida Trip

Greg Mossman wrote:

>
> Too bad Lee wasn't around to tell Hitler that. Hitler didn't give a
> damn about religion, so I doubt he killed 6,000,000 of us just because
> he didn't like Kosher meat or Hebrew prayers.
>
> Hitler wanted to "purify" the white (Aryan) race by killing off the
> Jewish race. If Lee had only told him that Jewishness was simply a
> religion like Hare Krishna or Scientology, he could have staved off
> the Holocaust.

Revisionist history.

In addition to the Jews, Hitler killed off an equal number of Poles,
Lithuanians, Russian POWs, Romanians and other slavs, plus gays, the
mentally retarded, Jehovah's Witnesses and political dissidents.

The Jews, in marketing the holocaust, generally ignore the other 6
million slaughtered, although they all ended up in the same ovens.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:39:55 -0600, John Hanson
<jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote in rec.scuba:

>I'll be flying into Tampa on the 9th and will be staying in Clearwater
>until the 12th. I'm not certain where I'll go after that but I will
>be flying out of Miami the morning of the 16th (Sunday morning). I
>have no definite plans from the 12th-15th.

Change of plans...leaving the morning of the 17th...really fucking
early.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:11:15 -0600, dazed and confuzzed wrote:

> If the predominant middle east immigrant group in the last 100+ years had
> been arabs, we'd be saying something like "raghead down". THe jews ust got
> here first with their bargaining ways.

Or "Ferengi down"...

Ever notice the names of the actors who play the Ferengis on Star Trek?
Kind of using stereotypes it seems...


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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:46:18 -0800, Greg Mossman wrote:

> Hitler wanted to "purify" the white (Aryan) race by killing off the Jewish
> race. If Lee had only told him that Jewishness was simply a religion like
> Hare Krishna or Scientology, he could have staved off the Holocaust.

<TOTALLY-POLITICALLY-INCORRECT>
Awh, Hitler was just afraid the Aryan's would find out that they had a
taste for kike nookie and would go back to kraut pussy again...
</TOTALLY-POLITICALLY-INCORRECT>

> How can you use a patently offensive term on a public newsgroup without
> it being deliberately hurtful? Surely you don't take John Hanson to be
> such a moron that he had no idea "Jew down" is offensive?

Well, John is a Yankee...

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>> It has aspects of both. I suppose "heritage" or ethnicity might be a
>> better word.

How about religion, since that's what it is?

>> That kept it in the family, direct blood ties
>> even if diluted by the occasional Goy intrusion . . .

I'm offended by your term for non Jews?

>> I have a direct matrimonial lineage to some Russian Jews that probably
>> descended from other Jews in an unbroken chain since biblical times.

I don't have any lineage to Russian Jews, but, just like you, I do have
lineage, in an unbroken chain, to the Jews of biblical times. Jesus was a
Jew.

>> Just as a "mulatto" person of both black and white ancestry can feel
>> entitled to offense at a white man's casual use of the word "nigger",
>> a half-Jew can certainly be offended at a white man's insulting use of
>> "Jew" as a verb.

You certainly can.

>> My use of certain phrases to describe segments of the uneducated
>> uncivilized masses may indeed be offensive, but that shouldn't excuse
>> someone else who offends with racist insults.

It's not a race, but, otherwise, you're right again. The point still holds,
however, that using the term "Jew down," while offensive to some, does not
rise to the same level as ethnic terms deliberately used in an offensive and
derrogatory manner, and you know it.

>> I'm proud to call rednecks rednecks and trailer trash trailer trash
>> because I'm proud that I'm not a redneck and I'm not trailer trash.
>>
>> How many here are proud to offend Jews and other racial and ethnic
>> minorities because they're proud they're not one of them?

None of us, which puts us firmly on the moral high ground. Thanks for making
my point.

Lee

Bar stroll in Key West on the 15th.

Lee

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"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:39:55 -0600, John Hanson
> <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote in rec.scuba:
>
>>I'll be flying into Tampa on the 9th and will be staying in Clearwater
>>until the 12th. I'm not certain where I'll go after that but I will
>>be flying out of Miami the morning of the 16th (Sunday morning). I
>>have no definite plans from the 12th-15th.
>
> Change of plans...leaving the morning of the 17th...really fucking
> early.

On Feb 20, 10:09 am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I don't have any lineage to Russian Jews, but, just like you, I do have
> lineage, in an unbroken chain, to the Jews of biblical times. Jesus was a
> Jew.
>

So you're saying you're a direct descendant of Jesus?

That would explain a lot.

gc

On Feb 20, 7:09*am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> It has aspects of both. *I suppose "heritage" or ethnicity might be a
> >> better word.
>
> How about religion, since that's what it is?

Because that's not all it is. It's an ethnicity as much as any other
ethnicity you can point to, because of the unbroken blood line that
probably runs in 95% of people calling themselves Jewish.

> I'm offended by your term for non Jews?

It's not a term of offense. Check the dictionary.

> I don't have any lineage to Russian Jews, but, just like you, I do have
> lineage, in an unbroken chain, to the Jews of biblical times. Jesus was a
> Jew.

Matrilineal. Is your mother Jewish?

> It's not a race, but, otherwise, you're right again. The point still holds,
> however, that using the term "Jew down," while offensive to some, does not
> rise to the same level as ethnic terms deliberately used in an offensive and
> derrogatory manner, and you know it.

Using the term "Jew down" rises to the same level as ethnic terms
deliberately used in an offensive and derogatory manner because it is
an ethnic term used in an offensive and derogatory manner. It's the
same exact thing. How could it possibly be different?

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

With only a couple exceptions, Lee and Scott so noted (and maybe
Grumman and Popeye too) (and maybe even Joe English and Bob
Crownfield, but probably not Dennis and definitely not Chris), I don't
really believe that all those I label "gun nuts" are truly insane or
psychotic, but merely foolish and silly.

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Chris:
So, does that mean that you don't label me a gun nut, or just that you think
I'm foolish and/or silly and/or eccentric?

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 20, 7:09 am, "Lee Bell" <pleeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> It has aspects of both. I suppose "heritage" or ethnicity might be a
> >> better word.
>
> How about religion, since that's what it is?

Because that's not all it is. It's an ethnicity as much as any other
ethnicity you can point to, because of the unbroken blood line that
probably runs in 95% of people calling themselves Jewish.

> I'm offended by your term for non Jews?

It's not a term of offense. Check the dictionary.

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Chris:
Out of curiosity, I just did (dictionary.com). According to the American
Heritage Dictionary, it is offensive. The other entires either list it as
"Often disparaging" (unabridged dictionary.com v1.1) or don't give any
indication one way or the other (online etymology dictionary, wordnet).

Of course, I always heard the phrase as "jaw" down as in "talk" down.
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> I don't have any lineage to Russian Jews, but, just like you, I do have
> lineage, in an unbroken chain, to the Jews of biblical times. Jesus was a
> Jew.

Matrilineal. Is your mother Jewish?

> It's not a race, but, otherwise, you're right again. The point still
holds,
> however, that using the term "Jew down," while offensive to some, does not
> rise to the same level as ethnic terms deliberately used in an offensive
and
> derrogatory manner, and you know it.

Using the term "Jew down" rises to the same level as ethnic terms
deliberately used in an offensive and derogatory manner because it is
an ethnic term used in an offensive and derogatory manner. It's the
same exact thing. How could it possibly be different?