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Old 03-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Lee Bell
 
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Default Re: TUSA IQ700 Dive Computer?

"Jerome's Sock Puppet" wrote

>> Again, this does not consider computers that can handle multiple gas
>> dives,
>> as a few of them can.

>
> There is a reason this does not consider computers that can handle
> multiple gas dives, Lee. He didn't ask about one. It's right up there
> in the title, so that's how I know.
>
> Please to be not confusing the new guys, eh? The least you could do
> is call him an asshole, first.


He hasn't been around long enough to earn the title.

Lee


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Old 03-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Greg Mossman
 
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"John Mason Jr" <notvalid@cox.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> Greg Mossman wrote:
>> "El Mecky" <elmecky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:44c02cac$0$5523$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>>> Fully agreed, Greg!
>>>
>>> u2 a D9 or you a D6?

>>
>> D9, natch. I do have to report that I didn't once get into deco on my
>> last trip, 30 dives over 10 days. The trick is to stay real shallow.


> Have you had the software updated in your D9


Naw. I got the notice less than a week before leaving on my last trip, so I
brought a backup computer instead. I hope it doesn't make the Suunto even
more conservative.


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Old 03-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Al Wells
 
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Lee Bell wrote:
> Al Wells wrote
>
> > Divers doing deep or long dives requiring decompression will use a
> > decompression strategy that is far different from the one that the
> > computer has. They will carry one or two extra gases to facilitate the
> > decompression, and the computer in "dive mode" can't handle that. They
> > will also use a bottom gas containing some helium, which has different
> > absorption/elimination rates.

>
> My new one can.


Divers doing deep or long dives requiring decompression will use a
decompression strategy that is far different from the one that the
computer has.

Ask George M about trimix computers.

> Read Al's last sentence carefully. It's important. As he notes, what the
> computer tells you is not based entirely on what is happening during that
> dive. It's based on what a computer presumes is happening based on the
> items it measures. Not all computers measure the same things and not all of
> them use everything they measure in their calculations.


What I'm saying is that many of us believe that there is strong
empirical and theoretical evidence that the Buhlmann model that is used
in your computer and much of the planning software in use is flawed,
especially for helium. The VPM is better, but not perfect either.

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Old 03-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Jerome's Sock Puppet
 
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Al Wells wrote:

> What I'm saying is that many of us believe that there is strong
> empirical and theoretical evidence that the Buhlmann model that is used
> in your computer and much of the planning software in use is flawed,
> especially for helium. The VPM is better, but not perfect either.


Until they can plug sensors into your blood stream and take real time
measurements, no model will be perfect. No model *can* be perfect.
It can be more or less accurate, though.

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Old 03-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Grumman-581
 
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On 21 Jul 2006 09:21:25 -0700, "Jerome's Sock Puppet"
<jerome.oneil@gmail.com> wrote:
> Until they can plug sensors into your blood stream and take real time
> measurements, no model will be perfect. No model *can* be perfect.
> It can be more or less accurate, though.


Wouldn't they need to have the sensors in various other parts of your
body since not all the parts off-gas at the same rate?
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Jerome's Sock Puppet
 
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Grumman-581 wrote:

> Wouldn't they need to have the sensors in various other parts of your
> body since not all the parts off-gas at the same rate?


Yeah, sure. I guess.

They'd also need a Mr. Fusion and a flux capacitor, and they'd have to
bounce the photon beam off the main deflector dish. (Don't worry boys,
we're making shit up as we wish...)

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Old 03-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Greg Mossman
 
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"Jerome's Sock Puppet" <jerome.oneil@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't they need to have the sensors in various other parts of your
>> body since not all the parts off-gas at the same rate?

>
> Yeah, sure. I guess.
>
> They'd also need a Mr. Fusion and a flux capacitor, and they'd have to
> bounce the photon beam off the main deflector dish. (Don't worry boys,
> we're making shit up as we wish...)


Cochran is supposed to have its new flux capacitor computer ready by
mid-2008, after they release the HUD mask.


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