Off topic: Microsoft spam

Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> entertained us with:
:Why would Yahoo filter spam that, if left unattended, creates a selling
oint for enhanced services? The answer should be obvious.

They do.

Dan Bracuk
As Big Ben said to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, I've got the time if you've got the inclination.
The Best of Rec.Scuba
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"HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700@yahoo.com> entertained us with:
:Is there any way we can find the identity of the infected sender (if
:we have their IP address)?

Browse the ip address. If it reveals an isp, think of who you know that
subscribes to that isp.

Of course, I don't think yahoo mail lets you see the headers.

Dan Bracuk
As Big Ben said to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, I've got the time if you've got the inclination.
The Best of Rec.Scuba
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Dan Bracuk wrote:
> Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> entertained us with:
> :Why would Yahoo filter spam that, if left unattended, creates a selling
> oint for enhanced services? The answer should be obvious.
>
> They do.


Yahoo with spam filters? ROFL Spare me.

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"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

HW "Skip" Weldon wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:09:49 +0200, Stig Arne Bye <stigbye@online.no>
> wrote:
>
>> Even is many viruses/worms can fake e-mail adresses and many other
>> informations in the header, there is however one thing no virus/worm
>> usually cannot fake, and that is the IP-adresses in the header as
>> these are added automatically by the relaying servers through the
>> network.
>>
>> Therefore, when sending an abuse, locate the originating
>> "Received:"-line in the header, and the IP-address found in that
>> line is the IP-address of the infected sender.
>>
>> Sending that entire "Received:"-line to the abuse-address of the
>> originating server/ISP will usually cause the sender to receive a
>> warning notification from his/her ISP.
>> Even if that server/ISP happen to not be the originating server/ISP,
>> they will usually still be able to use the information to parce their
>> server-log and trace the infected sender.
>
> Thank you. That's one of the best suggestions yet.
>
> Is there any way we can find the identity of the infected sender (if
> we have their IP address)?


One site with some online tools

http://www.samspade.org/t/

But the ONLY information you can trust in a mail header is information
written by servers you trust/control as anything else can be forged and
often is, munging your address when posting to the newsgroups can help with
SWEN and spam.

John Mason

Dan Bracuk wrote:
> Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> entertained us with:
> :Yahoo with spam filters? ROFL Spare me.
>
> Not only that, but on the free account, they let you set up to 15 filters, and
> block up to 100 domains.
>
> I know this because I have a yahoo account.
>
> Dan Bracuk


That's not Yahoo with spam filters - that's Dan with spam filters. A
significant difference.

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what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

The return address is either faked or is that of the person whose
computer is infected.

Dr. Spam Yak

Dan Bracuk wrote:
> "HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700@yahoo.com> entertained us with:
> :Is there any way we can find the identity of the infected sender (if
> :we have their IP address)?
>
> Browse the ip address. If it reveals an isp, think of who you know that
> subscribes to that isp.
>
> Of course, I don't think yahoo mail lets you see the headers.
>
> Dan Bracuk
> As Big Ben said to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, I've got the time if you've got the inclination.
> The Best of Rec.Scuba
> http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/
>
>
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Alan Street wrote:
>
> In article <3F8B896F.76B1AA7A@photoenvisions.com>, sales@photoenvisions.com
> says...
> >
> >Alan Street wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <3F8B5864.D4CF25C0@photoenvisions.com>, Steve Kramer
> >> <sales@photoenvisions.com> wrote:

> >> I thought you were more invincible than this <g>.
> >
> >Totally invincible. (though Kryptonite 'might' get through...) Not a
> >single one got through to my own computer! Everything was stopped at the
> >server level.

> Dan will be proud of you.

He put a gold star next to my name on the blackboard.

> I already had the spam block in place on my server before
> >the worm hit. It was just a matter of annotating a couple of filter
> >rules. There is a secondary fire wall as well as a daily updated
> >anti-virus program on my computers as well. I can't afford any computer
> >down time. I have too many deadlines to meet each month these days.


> Deadlines? That sounds like work - real work. I thought you had reached that
> coveted state of existance where "work" is for fun.

That is it's only redeeming grace. I love it! Here's 'work' for me;
a client calls me up and says 'I want to send you down to a beautiful
island for a week to take some beach bunny photos and some underwater
pics. I'll pay all expenses plus your daily rates for you and your
assistant (read as: wife.) But you have to have the finished, processed
images on a CD 8 days from today. Will you take the job?' Work plus
deadlines.

That was last month. This month it was a client calling to say;
"Steve, I just bought a new tour company that runs 4x4 adventure
off-road jeep tours along the mountains and jungles on the Burmese
border. I need photos of the tour for a new brochure. Can you leave
tomorrow and have the photos for me two days after you return?" Work
plus deadlines.

Not only did I get my regular fee for the shooting, a delightful free
adventure tour, but I was able to sell the same photos to two other
clients since then, and a two-part feature magazine story, including
cover photo that begins next month, also paid in full. You have to love
a job where 3-4 people all pay you for doing the same work. Just as long
as no one asks for an exclusivity clause (which is ridiculously
expensive) I'm free to sell the same photos over and over again! And
shooting digitally, I can process the photos each night on my lap top,
so there is virtually no lag time from the finish time of the shooting
assignment to delivery of a CD of images to the client.

This sort of thing plus I now have a regular monthly magazine column on
photography. More deadlines. Have to get to the printer on time. Plus my
wife has been writing articles in Japanese for some magazines, and I've
been supplying the photos and English translations for these. More
deadlines, but we do it together so it's more play than work! Plus with
seven different tourist magazines here in northern Thailand, as well as
international magazines, I get calls all the time.

> Please don't tell me you've
> let the rat race find you in paradise. That would shatter my dreams of how
> retirement is supposed to be .

It's not a rat race if you can pick and chose the events you want to run
in. If I tried the 'sitting in a rocking chair' type of retirement, I'd
be dead in 6 months. I need the adrenaline rush of adventure travel and
photography. I even turn down most of the requests I get for studio
shooting because that's too sedentary. I live in DisneyLand. I want to
enjoy it.

I want to be out in the boonies, humping 15 kilo of camera equipment up
a jungle trail into some Karen village, (actually, I want someone ELSE
to carry the load,) spend a day and a night there interacting with the
people and getting some pictures. I don't want to grow old sitting on my
butt. I spent some time with a Long Neck Karen tribe last week and
besides getting some great photos, I meet some new additions to the
tribe! Babies born since I was there last. They had some hand forged
knives for me that I had wanted the last time I was there, so I came
home with memories, new toys, new photos to sell, and a large smile on
my face. If THAT isn't what retirement is supposed to be all about, I
don't know what is!

Keep the faith. Retirement is only about changing lives, not ending
them. And if you are the lead Rat, the rat race is fun!

Steve Kramer
Chiang Mai, Thailand
Five years, one month, three weeks, three days, 5 hours, 7 minutes and
53 seconds. 56436 cigarettes not smoked, saving $14,109.10. Life used
for a better purpose: 27 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 0 minutes.


--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

Scott wrote:
> "John Mason Jr" <john.mason.jr@autostradeint.com> wrote in message
> news:184jb.87193$a16.13216@lakeread01...
>
>> Just please don't set mailwasher to bounce messages as this sends a
>> false NDR (Non Delivery Receipt) to envelope sender which is most
>> likely forged in the case of spam and viruses. Mailwasher is
>> actually a pop3 client with a bit more brains then others, It won't
>> help in the case of an accout is getting hammered by spam or a virus
>> if your not running the software and having it check your mail you
>> can still exceed your quota.
>
> The ones that piss me off are reported to Spamcop.
>
> Scott

Since mailwasher can use DNS blocklists add sbl.spamhaus.org very good list
of hard core spammers. Reporting spammers is a bit of work but it is kinda
nice when they lose their hosting, and it helps all of us block the flow of
crap. If rec.scubans need help tracking down a spammer let me know.

John

jor@soda.csua.berkeley.edu (Jason O'Rourke) entertained us with:
:Hopefully their solution isn't costing you much real mail.

I did that to myself once.

But, if I want to, I can go and see all the e-mails that have been deemed spam.
Somehow though, I never want to.

Dan Bracuk
As Big Ben said to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, I've got the time if you've got the inclination.
The Best of Rec.Scuba
http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/


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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:23:02 -0400, Dan Bracuk <bracuk@pathcom.com>
was a day late and a dollar short when he opined:

>:Does anyone know if that would help after the virus already has my
>:address? Is it still collecting addresses?
>
>You could always abandon your existing yahoo account and open another one.

That's what I did.

-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC