Two Excursions In One Day?

I'll be on my first ever cruise in a few weeks. The ship - Mariner of
The Seas. I have a question about excursions in Cozumel.

I signed up for the dolphin swim in the afternoon 3pm. Well, after this
weekend I will be a certified scuba diver. Now I want to do some diving in
Cozumel. They offer a scuba diving excursion with equipment for $80.00 at
10am. According to the web site it's two dives. They have the excursion
listed as four hours and thirty minutes. My question is: will I have enough
time to do the diving and then get to the dolphin swim? The dive excursion
starts at 10am (according to the web site) and the dolphin swim starts at
3pm. Again, the dive excursion is listed at 4 hours and 30 minutes. That
would give me thirty minutes to get to the dolphin swim. So, what I'm
asking - is 30 minutes enough time to get to the dolphin swim? Or should I
expect the dive excursion to last longer than 4h 30min? I would like to do
both excursions if possible. Am I asking too much to do both excursions?

Thanks!

"Von Fourche" <monaco8292@hotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:
: I signed up for the dolphin swim in the afternoon 3pm. Well, after this
:weekend I will be a certified scuba diver. Now I want to do some diving in
:Cozumel. They offer a scuba diving excursion with equipment for $80.00 at
:10am. According to the web site it's two dives. They have the excursion
:listed as four hours and thirty minutes. My question is: will I have enough
:time to do the diving and then get to the dolphin swim? The dive excursion
:starts at 10am (according to the web site) and the dolphin swim starts at
:3pm. Again, the dive excursion is listed at 4 hours and 30 minutes. That
:would give me thirty minutes to get to the dolphin swim. So, what I'm
:asking - is 30 minutes enough time to get to the dolphin swim? Or should I
:expect the dive excursion to last longer than 4h 30min? I would like to do
:both excursions if possible. Am I asking too much to do both excursions?

Ya never know until you try.

Dan Bracuk
If at first you don't succeed, you run the risk of failure.
The Best of rec.scuba http://www.pathcom.com/~bracuk/RecScuba/


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Von Fourche wrote:
> I'll be on my first ever cruise in a few weeks. The ship - Mariner of
> The Seas. I have a question about excursions in Cozumel.
>
> I signed up for the dolphin swim in the afternoon 3pm. Well, after this
> weekend I will be a certified scuba diver. Now I want to do some diving in
> Cozumel. They offer a scuba diving excursion with equipment for $80.00 at
> 10am. According to the web site it's two dives. They have the excursion
> listed as four hours and thirty minutes. My question is: will I have enough
> time to do the diving and then get to the dolphin swim? The dive excursion
> starts at 10am (according to the web site) and the dolphin swim starts at
> 3pm. Again, the dive excursion is listed at 4 hours and 30 minutes. That
> would give me thirty minutes to get to the dolphin swim. So, what I'm
> asking - is 30 minutes enough time to get to the dolphin swim? Or should I
> expect the dive excursion to last longer than 4h 30min? I would like to do
> both excursions if possible. Am I asking too much to do both excursions?
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Forget playing kissy-kissy with the damn dolphins - leave them alone.
Once you've learned natural behaviour is best viewed from below, you'll
know what I mean. I never support any venue that uses animals purely
for the entertainment of humans.

--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten'
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 08:30:00 -0500, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote:

>Von Fourche wrote:
>> I'll be on my first ever cruise in a few weeks. The ship - Mariner of
>> The Seas. I have a question about excursions in Cozumel.
>>
>> I signed up for the dolphin swim in the afternoon 3pm. Well, after this
>> weekend I will be a certified scuba diver. Now I want to do some diving in
>> Cozumel. They offer a scuba diving excursion with equipment for $80.00 at
>> 10am. According to the web site it's two dives. They have the excursion
>> listed as four hours and thirty minutes. My question is: will I have enough
>> time to do the diving and then get to the dolphin swim? The dive excursion
>> starts at 10am (according to the web site) and the dolphin swim starts at
>> 3pm. Again, the dive excursion is listed at 4 hours and 30 minutes. That
>> would give me thirty minutes to get to the dolphin swim. So, what I'm
>> asking - is 30 minutes enough time to get to the dolphin swim? Or should I
>> expect the dive excursion to last longer than 4h 30min? I would like to do
>> both excursions if possible. Am I asking too much to do both excursions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>
>Forget playing kissy-kissy with the damn dolphins - leave them alone.
>Once you've learned natural behaviour is best viewed from below, you'll
>know what I mean. I never support any venue that uses animals purely
>for the entertainment of humans.

Agreed. There was a big stink 2-3 years ago when they were imported
from the Pacific.
--
dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.

Dillon Pyron wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 08:30:00 -0500, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote:
>
>
>>Von Fourche wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be on my first ever cruise in a few weeks. The ship - Mariner of
>>>The Seas. I have a question about excursions in Cozumel.
>>>
>>> I signed up for the dolphin swim in the afternoon 3pm. Well, after this
>>>weekend I will be a certified scuba diver. Now I want to do some diving in
>>>Cozumel. They offer a scuba diving excursion with equipment for $80.00 at
>>>10am. According to the web site it's two dives. They have the excursion
>>>listed as four hours and thirty minutes. My question is: will I have enough
>>>time to do the diving and then get to the dolphin swim? The dive excursion
>>>starts at 10am (according to the web site) and the dolphin swim starts at
>>>3pm. Again, the dive excursion is listed at 4 hours and 30 minutes. That
>>>would give me thirty minutes to get to the dolphin swim. So, what I'm
>>>asking - is 30 minutes enough time to get to the dolphin swim? Or should I
>>>expect the dive excursion to last longer than 4h 30min? I would like to do
>>>both excursions if possible. Am I asking too much to do both excursions?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Forget playing kissy-kissy with the damn dolphins - leave them alone.
>>Once you've learned natural behaviour is best viewed from below, you'll
>>know what I mean. I never support any venue that uses animals purely
>>for the entertainment of humans.
>
>
> Agreed. There was a big stink 2-3 years ago when they were imported
> from the Pacific.

Imported? That's putting it nicely. What I don't get is where do these
captive dolphin petters think these animals came from? Were they all
invited to show up on Oprah one day, and after telling some sob story
about how the world has mistreated them and their families, Oprah had
her staff make reservations in a foreign cage so they could all enjoy
their new small cage? Hardly. These animals were going about their
daily lives, raising families, chasing food, doing goofy dolphin stuff,
etc. One fine day, a big net falls around them, they're thrown on a
plane flying at freezing altitudes, survivors tossed into a cage, fed
the same boring diet of dead fish every day, and expected to be nice
when the endless line ingrates show up pretending to know nothing.
Bullshit! These people know exactly what's going on and they don't give
a crap about anything except their own mindless fun. If I was a captive
dolphin feeling the way I do, I'd shit rotten fish all over the place.
There, kiss that, Bitch!

I wonder how much of a stink there'd be if someone went down there and
practiced their underwater fence cutting skills when they weren't
looking? Now that would be some real fun.


--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten'
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

"Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
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> I wonder how much of a stink there'd be if someone went down there and
> practiced their underwater fence cutting skills when they weren't
> looking? Now that would be some real fun.

I dunno. The dolphins at the one "dolphin encounter" I've tried weren't
captive. Nothing was stopping them from jumping out of their pens and into
the Pacific since the nets that "kept them in" ended at the surface. Maybe
they like the comforts of home with all the free fish.

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
news:41321aa9$0$105$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com...
> "Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
> news:cgrp1n$9k1@library1.airnews.net...
>
> > I wonder how much of a stink there'd be if someone went down there and
> > practiced their underwater fence cutting skills when they weren't
> > looking? Now that would be some real fun.
>
> I dunno. The dolphins at the one "dolphin encounter" I've tried weren't
> captive. Nothing was stopping them from jumping out of their pens and
into
> the Pacific since the nets that "kept them in" ended at the surface.
Maybe
> they like the comforts of home with all the free fish.

The dolphin encounter some friends prepaid for Jayna was even better. They
regularly release the dolphins into the wild. Those that she interacted
with were the ones that returned.

Lee

"Rosalie B." <gmbeasley@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:0rj4j0peu6q1qmhmhajhm9erj27qa7u7ol@4ax.com...

> >Okay, I was wrong about dolphins eating dead fish - they don't do that
> >according to my rescue buddy's email. However, dolphins won't jump out
> >of a fishing nets to save their own lives, let alone jump over a simple
> >fence to save their freedom. You're right, Greg, you don't know, or
> >maybe you're just confused. There's nothing free about those fish.
>
> They aren't fish they are mammals.

The fish that are fed to the dolphins are mammals? They looked like frozen
dead fish to me.

> >They don't belong there, they're captive, and that constitutes abuse.
> >When money changes pockets to witness this abuse, that constitutes
> >exploitation. IMO, neither are acceptable.

Of course it's exploitation, but I don't see the abuse. They know how to
jump. If slaves in antebellum days could be free by merely walking off
their master's property, and they knew perfectly well how to walk, then they
would lose their slave status.

The dolphins at this particular dolphin encounter all are rescued injured
animals. Just like some mental patients, they prefer to stay in their
asylum after rehabilitation is complete even though they are free to leave
at any time. Voluntary commitment. These dolphins have voluntarily
committed themselves. From what I see, they enjoy being exploited for
'free' fish. As a bonus they get to crap on human beings whenever they get
a chance.

By the way, jer, there was no fence. Just nets crisscrossing several islets
that the dolphins could jump over as easily as I could step over a
threshold. If a mere threshold causes you to consider yourself a slave,
then you truly aren't as free as these dolphins and I pity you.

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Rosalie B." <gmbeasley@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:0rj4j0peu6q1qmhmhajhm9erj27qa7u7ol@4ax.com...
>
>
>>>Okay, I was wrong about dolphins eating dead fish - they don't do that
>>>according to my rescue buddy's email. However, dolphins won't jump out
>>>of a fishing nets to save their own lives, let alone jump over a simple
>>>fence to save their freedom. You're right, Greg, you don't know, or
>>>maybe you're just confused. There's nothing free about those fish.
>>
>>They aren't fish they are mammals.
>
>
> The fish that are fed to the dolphins are mammals? They looked like frozen
> dead fish to me.
>
>
>>>They don't belong there, they're captive, and that constitutes abuse.
>>>When money changes pockets to witness this abuse, that constitutes
>>>exploitation. IMO, neither are acceptable.
>
>
> Of course it's exploitation, but I don't see the abuse.

Of course you don't. Exploitation of live animals = abuse. How dare
you assume to actually know what another living thing thinks. How
fxxking arrogant is that?

> They know how to jump.

Yes, they do, they jump all over the place in the wild. Experts far
smarter than you or I have been trying to understand why they do certain
things, so I'll defer to their as yet unresolved position.

> If slaves in antebellum days could be free by merely walking off
> their master's property, and they knew perfectly well how to walk, then they
> would lose their slave status.

I'm fairly certain they would've walked a mile a minute of someone had
bothered to respect them enough to offer them the education to subsist
on their own. Back then, a smart slave was often found under a head
stone or decorating a tree limb somewhere.

>
> The dolphins at this particular dolphin encounter all are rescued injured
> animals. Just like some mental patients, they prefer to stay in their
> asylum after rehabilitation is complete even though they are free to leave
> at any time. Voluntary commitment. These dolphins have voluntarily
> committed themselves. From what I see, they enjoy being exploited for
> 'free' fish. As a bonus they get to crap on human beings whenever they get
> a chance.

Good for them.

>
> By the way, jer, there was no fence. Just nets crisscrossing several islets
> that the dolphins could jump over as easily as I could step over a
> threshold. If a mere threshold causes you to consider yourself a slave,
> then you truly aren't as free as these dolphins and I pity you.
>

Your're welcome to pity me if you want Greg, but I would recommend
caution when it comes to understanding the behaviour patterns of our
non-human friends - they don't always make decisions based of what you
or I would consider the obvious course of our reason. I also have
attended "rescued animal" venues, but there was no mandatory cost for
access because it wasn't intended to be entertainment.

And those nets may as well have been a brick wall around a crematorium,
yet like your mental patients, have been conditioned to prefer, even
accept the lesser of at least one evil. Please Greg, I'm not one to
adopt the public persona that's handed me by some actor playing the role
of Good Person. I decide where my money goes, not the stage director.


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jer email reply - I am not a 'ten'
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur

"Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
news:cgu1kp$raf@library2.airnews.net...
> Greg Mossman wrote:
> > "Rosalie B." <gmbeasley@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:0rj4j0peu6q1qmhmhajhm9erj27qa7u7ol@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> >>>Okay, I was wrong about dolphins eating dead fish - they don't do that
> >>>according to my rescue buddy's email. However, dolphins won't jump out
> >>>of a fishing nets to save their own lives, let alone jump over a simple
> >>>fence to save their freedom. You're right, Greg, you don't know, or
> >>>maybe you're just confused. There's nothing free about those fish.
> >>
> >>They aren't fish they are mammals.
> >
> >
> > The fish that are fed to the dolphins are mammals? They looked like
frozen
> > dead fish to me.
> >
> >
> >>>They don't belong there, they're captive, and that constitutes abuse.
> >>>When money changes pockets to witness this abuse, that constitutes
> >>>exploitation. IMO, neither are acceptable.
> >
> >
> > Of course it's exploitation, but I don't see the abuse.
>
> Of course you don't. Exploitation of live animals = abuse. How dare
> you assume to actually know what another living thing thinks. How
> fxxking arrogant is that?

Ummm, you presume the same thing, don't you?

Lee