Recently stopped smoking - diving implications for lung discharge?

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Smoked a pack and a half a day for 30 years when I quit cold-turkey.
> I am a counterexample to the claim that cigarette smoking is additive.

If it wasn't addictive (assuming that's what you mean), why did you smoke a
pack and a half a day of a potent carcinogen for 30 years?
Self-destructive?

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> If it wasn't addictive, why did you smoke a pack and a half of cigarettes
per day for 30 years?

"It's my only luxury in life."
"I enjoy smoking."
"It's good for my lungs because it cleans them out.:
"It helps me relax."
"It's great with a cup of coffee."
"I like the smell of the Camel when it burns."
"It keeps me from getting colds."
"It keeps mosquitoes away while I'm fishing."
"It keeps the gnats off my face in the woods."
"It goes great at the bar with my buddies to be social."
"Beer with no cigarette?"
"It gives me something to do with my hands."
"It's how to break the ice with the girl you don't know."
"It's a cheap form of entertainment."
"I support the tobacco farmers."
"I need to carry matches to light it - and you never know when you'll need a
match."
"Oscar and Everett smoke so it wouldn't be right if I didn't join them."
"We need to support the economy."
"Because I want to."

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:42:50 -0800, Greg Mossman wrote:

> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Smoked a pack and a half a day for 30 years when I quit cold-turkey.
>> I am a counterexample to the claim that cigarette smoking is additive.
>
> If it wasn't addictive (assuming that's what you mean), why did you smoke a
> pack and a half a day of a potent carcinogen for 30 years?
> Self-destructive?

Tobacco is a stimulant.

"A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into thereoms."
--Paul Erdos

If your going to quote me, get it right! and don't use it out of context.

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"ben bradlee" <up2u2figr@NoWay.zip> wrote in message
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>
> "Meatball" <chris122@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > Hi!
> > I stopped smoking 8 days ago and will be going on an 8 day dive
> > vacation this Saturday. anyone care to comment on impact on healing
> > (non-smoking) lungs?
>
> Steve: It would probably be agood idea to call DAN and ask somebody whose
> amswer might be better informed than what you'll get here, or
> else start smoking and quit again when you get home.
>
> Dillon: We're all idiots here.
>
> Kaz: I have been [quitting] smoking for over 30 years and have had no
> problems with any strange side effects apart from using less air and
> coughing and spitting flem into my regulator.
>
> Joe: I would think the diving will just help your diving.
>
>
> > The dentist commented on how improved my teeth, gums, and mouth
> > are. He took xrays to show improvements.
>
> Haaacccckkkk. Well now. Excuse me for a moment. Thank you for placing
the
> spitoons conveniently in the center of the dive boat.
>
> To quote my mother. "I've been smoking for 70 years and it hasn't hurt
me.
> They can't prove that smoking does anything to your health." It's all
hype!
> The real problem is all the chemicals they use. Chemicals are bad -
tobacco
> is good."
>
> So there you have it; if you believe the x-ray and haven't been around
> chemicals, you can dive as deep as you want for as long as you want.
>
> I don't think I'd elevate this post to the level of an opinion.
>
>
>

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1105735234.755085.89200@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Smoked a pack and a half a day for 30 years when I quit
cold-turkey.
> > I am a counterexample to the claim that cigarette smoking is
additive.
>
> If it wasn't addictive (assuming that's what you mean), why did you
smoke a
> pack and a half a day of a potent carcinogen for 30 years?
> Self-destructive?

The NON-additive part is the ability to QUIT cold-turkey, without any
withdrawal symptom and without missing it on bit!

For a lawyer, your logic should be better than asking the question you
did (apart from your lack of understanding of the word "addictive").
I smoke a pack and a half a day because it was no more self-destructive
than chewing gum, and cigs don't stick to the desk and your hair.

There are lots of so-called medical "studies" who conclusions are no
more valid than a declarative statement without any scientifically
valid evidence. These tend to fool the gullible.

-- Bob.

ben bradlee wrote:
> "Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
> news:41e84c47$0$104$6c56adcd@news.qnet.com...
> > If it wasn't addictive, why did you smoke a pack and a half of
cigarettes
> per day for 30 years?
>
> "It's my only luxury in life."
Wrong. I had many luxuries.

> "I enjoy smoking."
I did.

> "It helps me relax."
True.

> "It's great with a cup of coffee."
Or two, or three ...

> "I like the smell of the Camel when it burns."
Never smoked a Camel.

> "It keeps the gnats off my face in the woods."
Nah. It could even keep the gnats off my face in newsgroups!

> "It goes great at the bar with my buddies to be social."
I don't drink.

< ... snip ... >

> "Because I want to."

Yes. Because I wanted to, until there were too many social gnats
telling others they shouldn't smoke while they are poluting the air
with their aerosol cans, automobile exhaust, industrial chimney
exhausts, farts, and other more destructive things than smoking.
-- Bob.

-- Bob.

"©´¯`·*kÂz*·´¯`©" <com.@©´¯`·*·´¯`©@.com> wrote in message
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> If your going to quote me, get it right! and don't use it out of context.
>

Please note two things:
1. I quoted my mother.
2. You are not my mother.

What I did without your blessing (apparently, and none was needed) was
paraphrase and edit your reply in order to satirize. My post lampoons
smokers, or quitters, and their perceived relationship with good health and
scuba diving.

My wife's brother smoked even after the operation for lung cancer. He had
to promise the doctor that he would quit smoking in order for the doctor to
do the operation - it was his second, after all. He could not keep the
promise to quit smoking. My wife made him go outside to smoke. He
struggled for breath with the remaining part of a lung while he negotiated
thru the porch into the cold winter air. He could no longer make it all the
way outside because he was too weak. He smoked on the cold porch filling
his lungs with curling smoke from the burning Luck Strike. My wife knew
that he cheated a bit by not going all the way out the back door but she did
not say anything because the smoke did not enter the house. A couple days
later when they found him dead she felt real bad for making him smoke
outside. Maybe it was the cold winter air that killed him.

In reply to my posted message!

"Quote"
>>Kaz: I have been [quitting] smoking for over 30 years and have had no
>>problems with any strange side effects apart from using less air and
>>coughing and spitting flem into my regulator.
"/Quote"
:
> 1. I quoted my mother.
Did you?
> 2. You are not my mother.
Do tell!

kaz

Reef Fish wrote:
> Greg Mossman wrote:
>
>>"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1105735234.755085.89200@z14g2000cwz.googleg roups.com...
>>
>>
>>>Smoked a pack and a half a day for 30 years when I quit
>
> cold-turkey.
>
>>>I am a counterexample to the claim that cigarette smoking is
>
> additive.
>
>>If it wasn't addictive (assuming that's what you mean), why did you
>
> smoke a
>
>>pack and a half a day of a potent carcinogen for 30 years?
>>Self-destructive?
>
>
> The NON-additive part is the ability to QUIT cold-turkey, without any
> withdrawal symptom and without missing it on bit!
>
> For a lawyer, your logic should be better than asking the question you
> did (apart from your lack of understanding of the word "addictive").
> I smoke a pack and a half a day because it was no more self-destructive
> than chewing gum, and cigs don't stick to the desk and your hair.
>
> There are lots of so-called medical "studies" who conclusions are no
> more valid than a declarative statement without any scientifically
> valid evidence. These tend to fool the gullible.
>
> -- Bob.
>

Oh well shit! I gotta start smoking!

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> For a lawyer, your logic should be better than asking the question you
> did (apart from your lack of understanding of the word "addictive").
> I smoke a pack and a half a day because it was no more self-destructive
> than chewing gum, and cigs don't stick to the desk and your hair.

I don't really want to know how your gum ended up in your hair, but I can
understand why cigarette smoke would make your hair, and your clothes, and
your hands all smell like cigarette smoke. Staining of the teeth.
Coughing. Ostracism by your non-smoking peers. Over thirty years you must
have noticed some of this, yet you persisted in your behavior. Merely
stubborn or addicted?

> There are lots of so-called medical "studies" who conclusions are no
> more valid than a declarative statement without any scientifically
> valid evidence. These tend to fool the gullible.

So which of the surgeon general's warnings do you believe are not supported
by adequate studies? People have been smoking and consequently dying from
lung cancer and other smoking-related diseases in much greater numbers than
non-smokers for many years now. You believe it's just a coincidence?

"Philip Morris USA agrees with the overwhelming medical and scientific
consensus that cigarette smoking is addictive. It can be very difficult to
quit smoking, but this should not deter smokers who want to quit from trying
to do so."

http://www.philipmorrisusa.com/en/he.../addiction.asp