Global warnig and ..sharks

To give it an Australian flavour, you should be more afraid of trees than
sharks. More people are killed by falling trees in this country than are
killed by sharks............and the government has a program in place at the
moment called the Greening of Australia in which it wants to plant a billion
more trees. Is the government trying to get rid of us??

On a serious note bees kill more people here than all the sharks, crocs,
spiders, snakes and jellyfish put together!! So why arent the tourists
warned about them instead of all the 'nasty' animals??

12 people died last year by falling off a horse.....maybe we should go and
shoot all the horses...........


etc etc


"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> "Thomas Palm" <Thomas.Palm@chello.removethis.se> wrote in message
> news:Xns9679D1C7E5897ThomasPalmchellose@212.83.64. 229...
>
>> It's a risk, but some scientists are willing to take risks to gain more
>> knowledge. It's hardly more dangerous than climbing active volcanos to
>> get
>> samples or other crazy stuff done by scientists, and it is considerably
>> more useful than climbing Mount Everest for the xxx times as done by non-
>> scientists out for a thrill. Not that I'd go swim with a great white,
>> you'd
>> better know what you are doing and be able to read their behavior.
>
> "Be able to read their behavior"??? You are nuts. Their behavior is
> strictly man-eating killer. And they've taken a bite of you before you
> even have a chance to see them coming.
>
>> That's why you should start off by observing sharks for a long time with
>> protection before you meet them unprotected. It's no different from other
>> potentially dangerous animals.
>
> That's what Sigfried said before the tiger bit off his head. Or was that
> Roy?
>
>> Some people who have been bitten by sharks have done just that. Myself,
>> I've never been closer to a shark than two meters or so, and those were
>> 'friendly' nurse sharks or medium sized [~2 m) reef sharks. Ramoras OTOH,
>> those are sneaky bastards you have to look out for. You don't one of
>> those
>> sucking up to you.
>
> Remoras go for the balls. That's what makes them especially dangerous.
>
> Myself, I've poked plenty of sharks. Trust me, you'd rather have the
> remora after you.
>

"Thomas Palm" wrote in message
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> But, of course, sharks don't feast on swimmers,
> net or no net.

Does it really matter whether it is a feast or just a snack when you're
missing a leg and probably going to bleed to death?

"Thomas Palm" <Thomas.Palm@chello.removethis.se> wrote in message
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> People occassionally get bitten by dogs too, but how many do you think
> would have dogs if they liked to eat people whenever they got a chance?

Dogs are lazy and much smarter than sharks. They realize that they need us
to feed them and they've been taught to not bite the hand that feeds them or
else they don't get fed. Sharks can eat anything and everything. They just
don't give a damn.

Besides, I'm a lot bigger than most of the dogs I know, and give me a good
long stick and I'll take on some of the biggest. I'm only about average for
a shark, and barely an amuse geule for a Great White.

"David Barwell" <barwell1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> To give it an Australian flavour, you should be more afraid of trees than
> sharks. More people are killed by falling trees in this country than are
> killed by sharks............and the government has a program in place at
> the moment called the Greening of Australia in which it wants to plant a
> billion more trees. Is the government trying to get rid of us??

That Australians are killed by falling trees says a lot more about
Australians than it does about sharks. If I were your government, I'd be
trying to get rid of you too.

> On a serious note bees kill more people here than all the sharks, crocs,
> spiders, snakes and jellyfish put together!! So why arent the tourists
> warned about them instead of all the 'nasty' animals??

They don't warn the tourists about much of anything dangerous, even drunk
Australians who hate Americans. For some reason, scaring tourists somehow
depresses tourism.

> 12 people died last year by falling off a horse.....maybe we should go and
> shoot all the horses...........

Horses stink and they haven't been useful in a century or so. I have no
problem with you shooting all of them. And shoot those koala while you're
at it. I've heard they too can become quite vicious when fondled.

But you really can't equate "falling off a horse" with "being eaten by a
shark". When the horses starting eating people at random, I'm sure more
will join my anti-horse crusade. In the meantime, it's simpler to stick
with pointing out the evil ways of the shark kingdom.

Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Thomas Palm" <Thomas.Palm@chello.removethis.se> wrote in message

[....]

>
>>It happes occasionally. Compared to other accidents with animals it is
>>extremely rare, but the newspapers love to write about it. I think I saw
>>an interview with that guy and he intended to go back surfing. He was
>>certain the attack was just a mistake and not likely to reoccur.
>
>
> So what other animals attack so ferociously and without warning? We've had
> a couple mountain lion attacks here in Southern California, but I'd take on
> a local mountain lion over a local great white any day. The mountain lion
> is a sentient mammal and I could likely connect with its brain and convince
> it not to attack me. Sharks don't give a damn. No amount of pleading or
> posturing will get them to leave you alone.


You make some interesting observations about shark behaviour - maybe
I've got more in common with sharks than I thought, albeit with a more
discriminating diet plan.

[....]


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Philip Davidson wrote:

>
> Don't worry if they come near Britain we will probably eat them
> what does sharks and chips taste like?
>

Ask the Newquay seagulls.
Mattias

Matthias Voss wrote:
> Philip Davidson wrote:
>
> >
> > Don't worry if they come near Britain we will probably eat them
> > what does sharks and chips taste like?
> >
>
> Ask the Newquay seagulls.
> Mattias

I haven't been there since the 70s
dead seagulls wrapped up in seaweed
when they wasn't shiting on you.

Lovely area.

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In article <11b8mtglkqs58f@corp.supernews.com>, mossman@qnet.com (Greg
Mossman) wrote:

> Almost all sharks are potentially dangerous,

I have video footage of sharks feeding in a frenzy, (lots of them 50 -60)
i and my wife were there filming them, we also had to swim through them to
get back to the boat after the feeding was over, they were not so agitated
once the feeding was over but they were still a little "hyper"....

I have lots of "Shark" photos that i have take in PNG and on Sipadan etc,
people often say......"you would not get me in the water"......"arn't you
scared"......my reply to them is this..........sharks are no different to
most other creatures, most annimals do not like the noise humans make and
they dont like the smell either.......they will generaly move away from
humans.......if you walk down the street you can often see dogs loose, you
dont run a mile at the very sight of a dog.........yet there are some very
aggresive dogs out there eh.........we treat them all with a degree of
caution......but if we corner a dog......dont give it a way of escaping
then it will turn really nasty..........its a matter of being able to
recognise the "signs"......when you see them, back off.

So.........
> Almost all sharks are potentially dangerous,
As are most annimals........

Having said all that...........would i dive with a great white in the
water ? .............get real.......

Dave Morgan @ Work in the UK
Take out the "goes diving" bit....
Trip photos on line at www.morg.co.uk

In article <50m8b1pful1122dujbtbqqfkr9s83b54j9@4ax.com>,
iaotb@inet.uni2.dk (Torsten Brinch) wrote:

> they appear to be attacking Americans quite frequently.

What nationality or religeon are the Sharks ?????????

Dave Morgan @ Work in the UK
Take out the "goes diving" bit....
Trip photos on line at www.morg.co.uk

<morgand@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I have video footage of sharks feeding in a frenzy, (lots of them 50 -60)
> i and my wife were there filming them, we also had to swim through them to
> get back to the boat after the feeding was over, they were not so agitated
> once the feeding was over but they were still a little "hyper"....

Lots of divers (especially feeders) have been nipped during frenzies. After
one such feed in Truk that I sat out, a fellow diver regaled me with a tale
of fending off a silvertip with his video camera. But he shrugged it off,
saying that they're not dangerous. I opened up the Micronesia fish ID book,
which describes the silvertip as generally harmless, but occasionally bites
divers during feeding frenzies. His face paled considerably.

I leave for the Cocos in 10 days. The idea of watching the reef sharks feed
at night admittedly has me a little nervous even though I've faced down
thousands of sharks without fear (not all at once, of course). The guy who
did the IMAX film down there got bit on the hand, though he had a financial
incentive to get closer than I'll be.

> I have lots of "Shark" photos that i have take in PNG and on Sipadan etc,
> people often say......"you would not get me in the water"......"arn't you
> scared"......my reply to them is this..........sharks are no different to
> most other creatures, most annimals do not like the noise humans make and
> they dont like the smell either.......they will generaly move away from
> humans.......if you walk down the street you can often see dogs loose, you
> dont run a mile at the very sight of a dog.........yet there are some very
> aggresive dogs out there eh.........we treat them all with a degree of
> caution......but if we corner a dog......dont give it a way of escaping
> then it will turn really nasty..........its a matter of being able to
> recognise the "signs"......when you see them, back off.

Maybe. But we have a much bigger advantage on land. We can hit, kick,
claw, bite, pull fur, throw rocks, and swing branches. I'll prefer a fight
against an average dog over an average shark any day. I'd even take on a
medium-sized bear before I'd take on even a medium-sized shark.

Then again, I've never really felt fear when diving with sharks. I have
been stalked by growling dogs before, and that's gotten my heart racing.

> So.........
>> Almost all sharks are potentially dangerous,
> As are most annimals........

Yep. I love to read stories of children eaten by Bambi. When I visit the
National Parks out here, there's usually a deer walking around the parking
lot and plenty of parents pushing their kids to go over and feed the vicious
beast right in front of signs begging people not to feed the wildlife.
Sometimes nature gets its revenge.

> Having said all that...........would i dive with a great white in the
> water ? .............get real.......

After talking with several people that have done it, Janna really wants to
go white shark diving off Guadalupe Island. You sit in a cage, so I'm not
worried about safety. It's the 30-hour boat trip that bugs me, especially
since you have to sit in a cage the whole time once you're there.
Fortunately the boats are not nearly as comfortable as a "luxury liveaboard"
so I've used that rationale against her for now.