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  #101  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Alan Street
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?

In article <dltid15cb1v381ajru5fjprptla3j8s0p4@4ax.com>, Joe wrote:

€ Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
€ wetsuit.

€ The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior is as
€ full of sh*t as you are.


Really? Tell you what, why don't you try a little experiment. Take two
identically full Al80s. Mount your regulator to one and remove the SPG
from the HP hose. Open the valve and record how long it takes for the
tank to empty. Switch the regulataor to the second tank, only this time
replace the SPG on the HP hose and remove a second stage from one of
the LP hoses. Repeat the experiment, then come back here and tell us
how FOS we are.

Alan



€ I would NEVER get any advice here from any of you Bozo's.

€ You crazy this newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only. No useful
€ information here about Scuba.

€ You are wrong in both instances because you have never seen a hose
€ blow up underwater...it was obvious from you ignorant responses.

€ Have a nice dive,


€ Please do us a favor, Keep going deep diving.









€ On 14 Jul 2005 19:04:45 -0700, "Reef Fish"
€ <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:

€ >
€ >
€ >Joe wrote:
€ >> Mr Reefe''''''re
€ >>
€ >> If an HP blows you will run out of air a lot faster than a LP hose.
€ >
€ >LOL! I was right when I wrote,
€ >
€ >RF> Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
€ >RF> broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
€ >
€ >Yup Joe. The scuba baby sitter R 4 U!
€ >
€ >The correct answer is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you said.
€ >The HP hose has a much smaller bore and it takes almost 20
€ >minutes to exhaust a tank if it broke. That's why when my
€ >depth gauge blew out of my console on my Tobago liveaboard
€ >trip, I had plenty of time to descend to the bottom to fetch
€ >the blown out gauge before returning to the boat.
€ >
€ >If your LP hose broke, you had better hurry and get to the
€ >surface!
€ >
€ >>
€ >> If you have enough air, you should be able to do a normal ascent
€ >> operating normally. But this is where the "buddy system" becomes
€ >> handy. If you believe in that system. Otherwise get a Spare Air.
€ >
€ >ROFLMAO!! Bad enough to need a buddy as a crutch. Spare DEATH?
€ >
€ >
€ >> Otherwise, then you could easily do a normal ascent with someone
€ >> else's octopus.
€ >
€ >Joe, this is no time to teach you how to scuba, or to anticipate
€ >problems and have ready-solutions if and when something goes wrong.
€ >
€ >It's all part of the education of a SELF-RELIANT diver, sometimes
€ >called a Solo Diver. If you HAVE to rely on your buddy, then
€ >you may be a liability to both.
€ >
€ >>
€ >> I had a "buddy" blow a HP hose on a night dive in Bonaire. He paniced
€ >> and did a fast ascent. He later admitted he always had air on his
€ >> second stage.
€ >
€ >Your buddy was as ignorant as you were about the HP hose, wasn't it?
€ >Such a buddy team is what contributes to many double-fatalities
€ >in the annals of scuba fatalities, or mismanagement of accidents.
€ >
€ >>
€ >> A tank with enough air...I think 1000 psi will give you the chance to
€ >> do a normal ascent if you do not "panic".
€ >
€ >Good for you. With which hose broken?
€ >
€ >>
€ >> I bet the reefer will panic and will get DCS, but that will be less
€ >> embarassing that his brown stain inside his wetsuit.
€ >
€ >Joe, you are FUNNY!
€ >
€ >I guess you never read my post in which I described one of the
€ >many skills that were NOT taught by any scuba agencies:
€ >
€ >RF> I can think of
€ >RF>only ONE occasion of having to a similar "advanced" skill, when
€ >nature
€ >RF>called for a sudden "number 2" during a dive in Cozumel, from a
€ >6-pak
€ >RF>boat without a head. I had NO prior practice in THAT lycra-suit
€ >RF>stripping in current "skill", so I did the more elementary version
€ >of
€ >RF>the free-floating manoeuvre on the ocean bottom, hidden behind a
€ >coral
€ >RF>head (no pun intended here), downcurrent from the group ...
€ >RF>Still a much more challenging manoeuvre than the free-floating doff-
€ >
€ >RF>and-don of a BC, which is a piece of cake.
€ >
€ >-- Bob.
€ >
€ >>
€ >> On 7 Jul 2005 18:42:54 -0700, "Reef Fish"
€ >> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
€ >>
€ >> >
€ >> >
€ >> >Dan Bracuk wrote:
€ >> >> Joe <Joe> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
€ >> >> :Besides if a hose is going to blow, this is the dive to have it
€ >> >> :happen.
€ >> >>
€ >> >> How would your hose know it was a checkout dive?
€ >> >
€ >> >Joe probably meant he wouldn't know what to do if a hose broke
€ >> >during a dive.
€ >> >
€ >> >Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
€ >> >broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
€ >> >
€ >> >-- Bob.

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  #102  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Reef Fish
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: which diver are you ?



Joe wrote:
> Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
> wetsuit.
>
> The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior is as
> full of sh*t as you are.
>
> I would NEVER get any advice here from any of you Bozo's.


Joe, you are so REALLY blissfully ignant that you're getting to
be more scary than funny!

>
> You crazy this newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only. No useful
> information here about Scuba.
>
> You are wrong in both instances because you have never seen a hose
> blow up underwater...it was obvious from you ignorant responses.


I'll play along, Joe. I always give suckers like you plenty of
rope to hang yourself.

Why don't you tell us WHERE or FROM WHOM that you learned that a
HP hose will drain a scuba tank much faster than a LP hose?

-- da Feeesh.
>
>
>
> On 14 Jul 2005 19:04:45 -0700, "Reef Fish"
> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Joe wrote:
> >> Mr Reefe''''''re
> >>
> >> If an HP blows you will run out of air a lot faster than a LP hose.

> >
> >LOL! I was right when I wrote,
> >
> >RF> Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
> >RF> broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
> >
> >Yup Joe. The scuba baby sitter R 4 U!
> >
> >The correct answer is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you said.
> >The HP hose has a much smaller bore and it takes almost 20
> >minutes to exhaust a tank if it broke. That's why when my
> >depth gauge blew out of my console on my Tobago liveaboard
> >trip, I had plenty of time to descend to the bottom to fetch
> >the blown out gauge before returning to the boat.
> >
> >If your LP hose broke, you had better hurry and get to the
> >surface!
> >
> >>
> >> If you have enough air, you should be able to do a normal ascent
> >> operating normally. But this is where the "buddy system" becomes
> >> handy. If you believe in that system. Otherwise get a Spare Air.

> >
> >ROFLMAO!! Bad enough to need a buddy as a crutch. Spare DEATH?
> >
> >
> >> Otherwise, then you could easily do a normal ascent with someone
> >> else's octopus.

> >
> >Joe, this is no time to teach you how to scuba, or to anticipate
> >problems and have ready-solutions if and when something goes wrong.
> >
> >It's all part of the education of a SELF-RELIANT diver, sometimes
> >called a Solo Diver. If you HAVE to rely on your buddy, then
> >you may be a liability to both.
> >
> >>
> >> I had a "buddy" blow a HP hose on a night dive in Bonaire. He paniced
> >> and did a fast ascent. He later admitted he always had air on his
> >> second stage.

> >
> >Your buddy was as ignorant as you were about the HP hose, wasn't it?
> >Such a buddy team is what contributes to many double-fatalities
> >in the annals of scuba fatalities, or mismanagement of accidents.
> >
> >>
> >> A tank with enough air...I think 1000 psi will give you the chance to
> >> do a normal ascent if you do not "panic".

> >
> >Good for you. With which hose broken?
> >
> >>
> >> I bet the reefer will panic and will get DCS, but that will be less
> >> embarassing that his brown stain inside his wetsuit.

> >
> >Joe, you are FUNNY!
> >
> >I guess you never read my post in which I described one of the
> >many skills that were NOT taught by any scuba agencies:
> >
> >RF> I can think of
> >RF>only ONE occasion of having to a similar "advanced" skill, when
> >nature
> >RF>called for a sudden "number 2" during a dive in Cozumel, from a
> >6-pak
> >RF>boat without a head. I had NO prior practice in THAT lycra-suit
> >RF>stripping in current "skill", so I did the more elementary version
> >of
> >RF>the free-floating manoeuvre on the ocean bottom, hidden behind a
> >coral
> >RF>head (no pun intended here), downcurrent from the group ...
> >RF>Still a much more challenging manoeuvre than the free-floating doff-
> >
> >RF>and-don of a BC, which is a piece of cake.
> >
> >-- Bob.
> >
> >>
> >> On 7 Jul 2005 18:42:54 -0700, "Reef Fish"
> >> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Dan Bracuk wrote:
> >> >> Joe <Joe> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> >> >> :Besides if a hose is going to blow, this is the dive to have it
> >> >> :happen.
> >> >>
> >> >> How would your hose know it was a checkout dive?
> >> >
> >> >Joe probably meant he wouldn't know what to do if a hose broke
> >> >during a dive.
> >> >
> >> >Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
> >> >broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
> >> >
> >> >-- Bob.


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  #103  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
H Huntzinger
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: which diver are you ?

Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote:

> In article <dltid15cb1v381ajru5fjprptla3j8s0p4@4ax.com>, Joe wrote:
>
> € Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
> € wetsuit.
> €
> € The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior is as
> € full of sh*t as you are.
> €
>
> Really? Tell you what, why don't you try a little experiment. Take two
> identically full Al80s. Mount your regulator to one and remove the SPG
> from the HP hose. Open the valve and record how long it takes for the
> tank to empty. Switch the regulataor to the second tank, only this time
> replace the SPG on the HP hose and remove a second stage from one of
> the LP hoses. Repeat the experiment, then come back here and tell us
> how FOS we are.



And when Joe's done, he can write the Owner/Editor of _UnderCurrent_
with his results, and ask him to retract this 1999 article that he still
keeps on his website:


http://www.undercurrent.org/UCnow/ar...eAir9902.shtml



-hh
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  #104  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Reef Fish
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: which diver are you ?



H Huntzinger wrote:
> Alan Street <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <dltid15cb1v381ajru5fjprptla3j8s0p4@4ax.com>, Joe wrote:
> >
> > € Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
> > € wetsuit.
> > €
> > € The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior is as
> > € full of sh*t as you are.
> > €
> >
> > Really? Tell you what, why don't you try a little experiment. Take two
> > identically full Al80s. Mount your regulator to one and remove the SPG
> > from the HP hose. Open the valve and record how long it takes for the
> > tank to empty. Switch the regulataor to the second tank, only this time
> > replace the SPG on the HP hose and remove a second stage from one of
> > the LP hoses. Repeat the experiment, then come back here and tell us
> > how FOS we are.

>
>
> And when Joe's done, he can write the Owner/Editor of _UnderCurrent_
> with his results, and ask him to retract this 1999 article that he still
> keeps on his website:
>
>
> http://www.undercurrent.org/UCnow/ar...eAir9902.shtml


Hugh posted the same article/facts on Mar 28 1999, 3:00 am.
http://www.undercurrent.org/UCnow/ar...eAir9902.shtml

John Q. Trigger might have surmised that the Spare Death AD writer
was confusing the LP hose with the HP hose, as Joe did!

The key fact in John's experiment was the draining of 2500/3000 psi
AL 80 tanks in approx. 20 and 2 minutes or a RATIO of about 10 in
TIME (HP hose to drain)/TIME (LP hose to drain), at surface.


This reminded of a thread in 1996 in which I wrote,

"The common MISCONCEPTION is that a HIGH pressure hose break would
drain
the tank faster than a LOW pressure hose. WRONG -- by a wide margin!

Reason? It's the DIAMETERS of the BORES of the hoses that mattered.
A HP hose, to be able to withstand high pressure, has a THICKER tube
and
a MUCH SMALLER hole (bore), hence drains SLOWER. The LP hose, OTOH,
has
a much bigger hole "

It's the size of the BORE that determines the speed of drainage.

I must have remembered John Q.'s 20 minute figure when I told Joe,

RF> The HP hose has a much smaller bore and it takes almost 20
RF> minutes to exhaust a tank if it broke. That's why when my
RF> depth gauge blew out of my console on my Tobago liveaboard
RF> trip, I had plenty of time to descend to the bottom to fetch
RF> the blown out gauge before returning to the boat.


But in the 1996 threads, some rec.scuban posted something to the
effect that the HP to LP time ratio was about 12 in the experiment
he performed: HP hose took 12 times longer -- but the ACTUAL
times were about 5 times shorter than John Q's figures.

That COULD account for the figure Spare Air used for time to
empty at 120 fsw, because that's at almost 4 AT higher than
John Q.'s pressure at the surface.

In any event, the ratio of about 10 to 1 seems consistent.

If someone has a full tank to blow, they might try to see if
John Q's 2 minutes was more accurate than the time of 20/30 secs
reported by someone else, on the LP, and not HP hose.

-- Bob.

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  #105  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Lee Bell
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: which diver are you ?

<Joe> wrote in message news:dltid15cb1v381ajru5fjprptla3j8s0p4@4ax.com...
> Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
> wetsuit. The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior
> is as
> full of sh*t as you are.


> I would NEVER get any advice here from any of you Bozo's.
> You crazy this newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only. No useful
> information here about Scuba.


Hey, don't paint the rest of us with a brush designed by Bob. He's well
known as a looney.

Lee


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  #106  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?



Lee Bell wrote:
> <Joe> wrote in message news:dltid15cb1v381ajru5fjprptla3j8s0p4@4ax.com...
> > Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
> > wetsuit. The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior
> > is as
> > full of sh*t as you are.

>
> > I would NEVER get any advice here from any of you Bozo's.
> > You crazy this newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only. No useful
> > information here about Scuba.

>
> Hey, don't paint the rest of us with a brush designed by Bob. He's well
> known as a looney.
>
> Lee


That's puts Lee (the Ostrich with his head permanently stuck in the
hole where the sun don't shine) in the same class as Joe! LOL!

-- Bob.

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  #107  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Reef Fish
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: which diver are you ?



Reef Fish wrote:
> Joe wrote:
> > Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
> > wetsuit.
> >
> > The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior is as
> > full of sh*t as you are.
> >
> > I would NEVER get any advice here from any of you Bozo's.


>
> I'll play along, Joe.
>
> Why don't you tell us WHERE or FROM WHOM that you learned that a
> HP hose will drain a scuba tank much faster than a LP hose?
>
> -- da Feeesh.


Where's Joe? We don't get Guest Lecturers in rec.scuba often.
I was really looking forward to learn about HP and LP hoses
from him.

-- Bob.

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  #108  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Joe
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: which diver are you ?

You can't go by your bore hole theory.

I am talking about blown hose, which would have no bore restrictions
you name.




On 16 Jul 2005 19:14:13 -0700, "Reef Fish"
<Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>Joe wrote:
>> Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
>> wetsuit.
>>
>> The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior is as
>> full of sh*t as you are.
>>
>> I would NEVER get any advice here from any of you Bozo's.

>
>Joe, you are so REALLY blissfully ignant that you're getting to
>be more scary than funny!
>
>>
>> You crazy this newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only. No useful
>> information here about Scuba.
>>
>> You are wrong in both instances because you have never seen a hose
>> blow up underwater...it was obvious from you ignorant responses.

>
>I'll play along, Joe. I always give suckers like you plenty of
>rope to hang yourself.
>
>Why don't you tell us WHERE or FROM WHOM that you learned that a
>HP hose will drain a scuba tank much faster than a LP hose?
>
>-- da Feeesh.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 Jul 2005 19:04:45 -0700, "Reef Fish"
>> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Joe wrote:
>> >> Mr Reefe''''''re
>> >>
>> >> If an HP blows you will run out of air a lot faster than a LP hose.
>> >
>> >LOL! I was right when I wrote,
>> >
>> >RF> Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
>> >RF> broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
>> >
>> >Yup Joe. The scuba baby sitter R 4 U!
>> >
>> >The correct answer is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you said.
>> >The HP hose has a much smaller bore and it takes almost 20
>> >minutes to exhaust a tank if it broke. That's why when my
>> >depth gauge blew out of my console on my Tobago liveaboard
>> >trip, I had plenty of time to descend to the bottom to fetch
>> >the blown out gauge before returning to the boat.
>> >
>> >If your LP hose broke, you had better hurry and get to the
>> >surface!
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If you have enough air, you should be able to do a normal ascent
>> >> operating normally. But this is where the "buddy system" becomes
>> >> handy. If you believe in that system. Otherwise get a Spare Air.
>> >
>> >ROFLMAO!! Bad enough to need a buddy as a crutch. Spare DEATH?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Otherwise, then you could easily do a normal ascent with someone
>> >> else's octopus.
>> >
>> >Joe, this is no time to teach you how to scuba, or to anticipate
>> >problems and have ready-solutions if and when something goes wrong.
>> >
>> >It's all part of the education of a SELF-RELIANT diver, sometimes
>> >called a Solo Diver. If you HAVE to rely on your buddy, then
>> >you may be a liability to both.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I had a "buddy" blow a HP hose on a night dive in Bonaire. He paniced
>> >> and did a fast ascent. He later admitted he always had air on his
>> >> second stage.
>> >
>> >Your buddy was as ignorant as you were about the HP hose, wasn't it?
>> >Such a buddy team is what contributes to many double-fatalities
>> >in the annals of scuba fatalities, or mismanagement of accidents.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> A tank with enough air...I think 1000 psi will give you the chance to
>> >> do a normal ascent if you do not "panic".
>> >
>> >Good for you. With which hose broken?
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I bet the reefer will panic and will get DCS, but that will be less
>> >> embarassing that his brown stain inside his wetsuit.
>> >
>> >Joe, you are FUNNY!
>> >
>> >I guess you never read my post in which I described one of the
>> >many skills that were NOT taught by any scuba agencies:
>> >
>> >RF> I can think of
>> >RF>only ONE occasion of having to a similar "advanced" skill, when
>> >nature
>> >RF>called for a sudden "number 2" during a dive in Cozumel, from a
>> >6-pak
>> >RF>boat without a head. I had NO prior practice in THAT lycra-suit
>> >RF>stripping in current "skill", so I did the more elementary version
>> >of
>> >RF>the free-floating manoeuvre on the ocean bottom, hidden behind a
>> >coral
>> >RF>head (no pun intended here), downcurrent from the group ...
>> >RF>Still a much more challenging manoeuvre than the free-floating doff-
>> >
>> >RF>and-don of a BC, which is a piece of cake.
>> >
>> >-- Bob.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 7 Jul 2005 18:42:54 -0700, "Reef Fish"
>> >> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Dan Bracuk wrote:
>> >> >> Joe <Joe> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
>> >> >> :Besides if a hose is going to blow, this is the dive to have it
>> >> >> :happen.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How would your hose know it was a checkout dive?
>> >> >
>> >> >Joe probably meant he wouldn't know what to do if a hose broke
>> >> >during a dive.
>> >> >
>> >> >Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
>> >> >broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
>> >> >
>> >> >-- Bob.


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  #109  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Reef Fish
 
Posts: n/a
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Joe wrote:
> You can't go by your bore hole theory.
>
> I am talking about blown hose, which would have no bore restrictions
> you name.


Really now?

Why don't you tell us WHERE or FROM WHOM you learned THAT?

Thought you were gone for good tugging your hose behind your tail.

What happened to the earlier question I asked you???

Why don't you tell us WHERE or FROM WHOM that you learned that a
HP hose will drain a scuba tank much faster than a LP hose?

-- Bob.


> On 16 Jul 2005 19:14:13 -0700, "Reef Fish"
> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Joe wrote:
> >> Reefer you never responded how you removed your brown stain from your
> >> wetsuit.
> >>
> >> The other "stuff" about your theories about LP and HP behavior is as
> >> full of sh*t as you are.
> >>
> >> I would NEVER get any advice here from any of you Bozo's.

> >
> >Joe, you are so REALLY blissfully ignant that you're getting to
> >be more scary than funny!
> >
> >>
> >> You crazy this newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only. No useful
> >> information here about Scuba.
> >>
> >> You are wrong in both instances because you have never seen a hose
> >> blow up underwater...it was obvious from you ignorant responses.

> >
> >I'll play along, Joe. I always give suckers like you plenty of
> >rope to hang yourself.
> >
> >Why don't you tell us WHERE or FROM WHOM that you learned that a
> >HP hose will drain a scuba tank much faster than a LP hose?
> >
> >-- da Feeesh.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14 Jul 2005 19:04:45 -0700, "Reef Fish"
> >> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Joe wrote:
> >> >> Mr Reefe''''''re
> >> >>
> >> >> If an HP blows you will run out of air a lot faster than a LP hose.
> >> >
> >> >LOL! I was right when I wrote,
> >> >
> >> >RF> Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
> >> >RF> broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
> >> >
> >> >Yup Joe. The scuba baby sitter R 4 U!
> >> >
> >> >The correct answer is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you said.
> >> >The HP hose has a much smaller bore and it takes almost 20
> >> >minutes to exhaust a tank if it broke. That's why when my
> >> >depth gauge blew out of my console on my Tobago liveaboard
> >> >trip, I had plenty of time to descend to the bottom to fetch
> >> >the blown out gauge before returning to the boat.
> >> >
> >> >If your LP hose broke, you had better hurry and get to the
> >> >surface!
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> If you have enough air, you should be able to do a normal ascent
> >> >> operating normally. But this is where the "buddy system" becomes
> >> >> handy. If you believe in that system. Otherwise get a Spare Air.
> >> >
> >> >ROFLMAO!! Bad enough to need a buddy as a crutch. Spare DEATH?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Otherwise, then you could easily do a normal ascent with someone
> >> >> else's octopus.
> >> >
> >> >Joe, this is no time to teach you how to scuba, or to anticipate
> >> >problems and have ready-solutions if and when something goes wrong.
> >> >
> >> >It's all part of the education of a SELF-RELIANT diver, sometimes
> >> >called a Solo Diver. If you HAVE to rely on your buddy, then
> >> >you may be a liability to both.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I had a "buddy" blow a HP hose on a night dive in Bonaire. He paniced
> >> >> and did a fast ascent. He later admitted he always had air on his
> >> >> second stage.
> >> >
> >> >Your buddy was as ignorant as you were about the HP hose, wasn't it?
> >> >Such a buddy team is what contributes to many double-fatalities
> >> >in the annals of scuba fatalities, or mismanagement of accidents.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> A tank with enough air...I think 1000 psi will give you the chance to
> >> >> do a normal ascent if you do not "panic".
> >> >
> >> >Good for you. With which hose broken?
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I bet the reefer will panic and will get DCS, but that will be less
> >> >> embarassing that his brown stain inside his wetsuit.
> >> >
> >> >Joe, you are FUNNY!
> >> >
> >> >I guess you never read my post in which I described one of the
> >> >many skills that were NOT taught by any scuba agencies:
> >> >
> >> >RF> I can think of
> >> >RF>only ONE occasion of having to a similar "advanced" skill, when
> >> >nature
> >> >RF>called for a sudden "number 2" during a dive in Cozumel, from a
> >> >6-pak
> >> >RF>boat without a head. I had NO prior practice in THAT lycra-suit
> >> >RF>stripping in current "skill", so I did the more elementary version
> >> >of
> >> >RF>the free-floating manoeuvre on the ocean bottom, hidden behind a
> >> >coral
> >> >RF>head (no pun intended here), downcurrent from the group ...
> >> >RF>Still a much more challenging manoeuvre than the free-floating doff-
> >> >
> >> >RF>and-don of a BC, which is a piece of cake.
> >> >
> >> >-- Bob.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> On 7 Jul 2005 18:42:54 -0700, "Reef Fish"
> >> >> <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dan Bracuk wrote:
> >> >> >> Joe <Joe> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> >> >> >> :Besides if a hose is going to blow, this is the dive to have it
> >> >> >> :happen.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> How would your hose know it was a checkout dive?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Joe probably meant he wouldn't know what to do if a hose broke
> >> >> >during a dive.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
> >> >> >broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-- Bob.


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Old 03-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Alan Street
 
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In article <jeotd1pbetl1fhsoe30pb23mgpgsvbslqe@4ax.com>, Joe wrote:

€ You can't go by your bore hole theory.

€ I am talking about blown hose, which would have no bore restrictions
€ you name.



Sure it would. Have you ever taken the HP hose off of your first stage?
Do you have even the slightest clue about how a first stage is made
today? Did you try the experiment I proposed?

(do you know why top posting is considered bad form on Usenet?)

Alan
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