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  #51  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Ecnerwal
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?

In article <LCbze.5900$aY6.2189@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:

> "Alan Street" wrote
>
> > Although I'd put a little more credence in a Captian's license than an
> > OW card. The bar is set a little higher, and it takes a bit more work.

>
> I would too, and I agree that it normally requires more work. Then again, I
> know at least one licensed captain that, to the best of my knowledge, has
> never actually operated a boat.
>
> Lee


And quite a number that have left dive sites a few divers short of a
load...
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  #52  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Ecnerwal wrote:
> In article <LCbze.5900$aY6.2189@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
> "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan Street" wrote
> >
> > > Although I'd put a little more credence in a Captian's license than an
> > > OW card. The bar is set a little higher, and it takes a bit more work.

> >
> > I would too, and I agree that it normally requires more work. Then again, I
> > know at least one licensed captain that, to the best of my knowledge, has
> > never actually operated a boat.
> >
> > Lee

>
> And quite a number that have left dive sites a few divers short of a
> load...


LOL!

And the MEDICAL clearance to be a captain is far less stringent
than that to be a scuba diver!

I may be wrong, but I think a morbidly obsese, one-legged,
insulin-dependent diabetic, with a history of asthma and heart
disease can be a licensed boat captain.

-- Bob.

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  #53  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Joe
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?

Since I dive for the fun of it I am Diver B.

Many people that get upset because they think they "know it all" or
use other excuse to boast how good of a diver they are and how many
purchased certifications they have, are completely full of shi*.

I have seen and witnessed so many who call themselves "experts" fining
coral head off their roots, silking the water visibility to cero and
unable to maintain a simple neutral bouyancy that I know they ALL need
a checkout dive.

Besides if a hose is going to blow, this is the dive to have it
happen.








On 4 Jul 2005 04:58:26 -0700, "captkeywest" <captkeywest@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>from a local dive column.........
>
>Divers must work hard to protect reef
>
>DIVERSIONS ( credit to Capt. Scott F.)
>
>Diver A walks into a dive shop on a beautiful tropical island and asks
>to sign up for the afternoon trip to the local reef.
>
>The young instructor behind the counter checks Diver A's certification
>card and notes that he's been certified for a number of years.
>
>In addition, the instructor notices that Diver A has taken several
>additional courses beyond open water.
>
>Releases are signed and everything goes well until Diver A is informed
>that he will be joining several other first-time visitors to the island
>on a checkout dive.
>
>
>Diver A politely informs the young instructor that he is already
>certified and does not need a checkout dive.
>
>The young instructor, also polite but firm, explains to Diver A that to
>protect the coral reef of the beautiful tropical island, all divers
>must first exhibit comfort in the water and proper buoyancy control
>before being allowed to dive.
>
>Diver A is not at all happy. He thinks that a certification card is
>proof enough that he can dive.
>
>
>
>
>He is not amused that this young instructor wants to see him perform a
>few skills - skills that he has been doing long before this young
>instructor ever started teaching.
>
>Diver B walks into the same shop on the same beautiful tropical island
>and also wants to sign up for a dive to the local reef.
>
>The young instructor checks his certification as well and notes that
>this diver also has quite a bit of experience and additional training.
>
>
>
>
>When informed about the policy of all dive operations on the beautiful
>tropical island on protecting the coral reef, Diver B simply nods and
>agrees to "jump through the hoops" to be allowed to dive on the famed
>reefs.
>
>Diver B looks forward to the chance to showcase his mask clearing
>skills and buoyancy control.
>
>Diver B also understands that by requiring a checkout dive before
>allowing divers to explore the reefs of the beautiful tropical island,
>the dive operators are ensuring that only careful, competent divers
>enter the water.
>
>
>
>
>Others are offered additional training and help to ensure that the
>coral reefs remain in a healthy pristine state.
>
>Diver B knows that by protecting the coral reefs, the beautiful
>tropical island is creating a product that divers the world over will
>seek to visit and explore.
>
>So which diver are you?
>
>
>
>
>Would you get angry and upset if an operator asked you to perform a few
>simple skills to showcase your proficiency?
>
>Or would you understand that the operator was simply trying to help
>preserve the delicate and precious coral reef environment?
>
>Would you be happy to "show off" a little and show the instructor the
>skills you have been working on over the years?
>
>And would your answers change if that beautiful tropical island was
>right here in the Florida Keys?
>
>Would you complain if you had to prove your proficiency before being
>allowed to dive here?
>
>Is our beautiful tropical island not as good as theirs?
>
>Best fishes!


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  #54  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Joe <Joe> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:Besides if a hose is going to blow, this is the dive to have it
:happen.

How would your hose know it was a checkout dive?

Dan Bracuk
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  #55  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Dr Yak
 
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Lee Bell wrote:
> "Alan Street" wrote
>
>
>>Although I'd put a little more credence in a Captian's license than an
>>OW card. The bar is set a little higher, and it takes a bit more work.

>
>
> I would too, and I agree that it normally requires more work. Then again, I
> know at least one licensed captain that, to the best of my knowledge, has
> never actually operated a boat.
>
> Lee
>
>

Does Exxon Valdez bring back any memories...
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  #56  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?

"Lee Bell" <leebell@ix.remove.netcom.com> pounded away at his keyboard
resulting in:

:I would too, and I agree that it normally requires more work. Then again, I
:know at least one licensed captain that, to the best of my knowledge, has
:never actually operated a boat.

When I was on the Cayman Aggressor 3 (Apr 1990), the Captain drove the
boat to all the dive sites, but the cook drove it into the harbour at
the end of the trip.

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  #57  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Dan Bracuk wrote:
> Joe <Joe> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> :Besides if a hose is going to blow, this is the dive to have it
> :happen.
>
> How would your hose know it was a checkout dive?


Joe probably meant he wouldn't know what to do if a hose broke
during a dive.

Does Joe know what to do if a HP hose broke? If a LP hose
broke? Does he know the difference between a HP and LP hose?

-- Bob.

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  #58  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Whistler
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?

Jim Wyatt wrote:
> Its funny you should say that. In all my years of running boats, and
> submarines no paying passenger EVER asked to see my credentials. Also I
> don't recall any diver ever asking to see my C-Cards before I started
> teaching their classes.
>
> Of course holding a Captains' license and/or a scuba instructor card does
> not equate to competence.


Heh. You have an excellent point there, Jim. I believe I might have a
new item for my checklist.
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  #59  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Shack
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?

Is this a hint that PADI will soon be introducing a recurring Specialty,
"PADI Protect the Beautiful Coral Reef Diver"?


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  #60  
Old 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM
Finn
 
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Default Re: which diver are you ?

Please stay away from the keys at all costs.....thank you for not coming
there !

"Daniel Kessler" <dkessler@pop.cybernex.net> wrote in message
news:42C92E80.3B093686@pop.cybernex.net...
> All this fuss about allowing someone to dive in the Florida Keys and swim
> around in the eel grass? Get real!
>
> The Florida Keys don't even appear on my radar screen!
>
> captkeywest wrote:
>
>> from a local dive column.........
>>
>> Divers must work hard to protect reef
>>
>> DIVERSIONS ( credit to Capt. Scott F.)
>>
>> Diver A walks into a dive shop on a beautiful tropical island and asks
>> to sign up for the afternoon trip to the local reef.
>>
>> The young instructor behind the counter checks Diver A's certification
>> card and notes that he's been certified for a number of years.
>>
>> In addition, the instructor notices that Diver A has taken several
>> additional courses beyond open water.
>>
>> Releases are signed and everything goes well until Diver A is informed
>> that he will be joining several other first-time visitors to the island
>> on a checkout dive.
>>
>> Diver A politely informs the young instructor that he is already
>> certified and does not need a checkout dive.
>>
>> The young instructor, also polite but firm, explains to Diver A that to
>> protect the coral reef of the beautiful tropical island, all divers
>> must first exhibit comfort in the water and proper buoyancy control
>> before being allowed to dive.
>>
>> Diver A is not at all happy. He thinks that a certification card is
>> proof enough that he can dive.
>>
>> He is not amused that this young instructor wants to see him perform a
>> few skills - skills that he has been doing long before this young
>> instructor ever started teaching.
>>
>> Diver B walks into the same shop on the same beautiful tropical island
>> and also wants to sign up for a dive to the local reef.
>>
>> The young instructor checks his certification as well and notes that
>> this diver also has quite a bit of experience and additional training.
>>
>> When informed about the policy of all dive operations on the beautiful
>> tropical island on protecting the coral reef, Diver B simply nods and
>> agrees to "jump through the hoops" to be allowed to dive on the famed
>> reefs.
>>
>> Diver B looks forward to the chance to showcase his mask clearing
>> skills and buoyancy control.
>>
>> Diver B also understands that by requiring a checkout dive before
>> allowing divers to explore the reefs of the beautiful tropical island,
>> the dive operators are ensuring that only careful, competent divers
>> enter the water.
>>
>> Others are offered additional training and help to ensure that the
>> coral reefs remain in a healthy pristine state.
>>
>> Diver B knows that by protecting the coral reefs, the beautiful
>> tropical island is creating a product that divers the world over will
>> seek to visit and explore.
>>
>> So which diver are you?
>>
>> Would you get angry and upset if an operator asked you to perform a few
>> simple skills to showcase your proficiency?
>>
>> Or would you understand that the operator was simply trying to help
>> preserve the delicate and precious coral reef environment?
>>
>> Would you be happy to "show off" a little and show the instructor the
>> skills you have been working on over the years?
>>
>> And would your answers change if that beautiful tropical island was
>> right here in the Florida Keys?
>>
>> Would you complain if you had to prove your proficiency before being
>> allowed to dive here?
>>
>> Is our beautiful tropical island not as good as theirs?
>>
>> Best fishes!

>



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