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  #41  
Old 08-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Alan Street
 
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Default Re: OT: Tips on Lost Wages (was Re: New Continental international baggage policy)

In article <1123651599.932746.180200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Reef Fish <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> wrote:


€ Now make yourself scarce, and babble in those OT threads in
€ which I do not engage in, because I choose not to engage in
€ because I have nothing I wish to contribute.



You're learning.
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  #42  
Old 08-10-2005, 04:34 PM
Dillon Pyron
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy

Thus spake "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> :

>
>Jer wrote:
>> Reef Fish wrote:
>> > Jer wrote:
>> >
>> >>Reef Fish wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Greg Mossman wrote:


<snip>

>> AU$40/kilo? That does seem excessive, but if I gotta go, I gotta go.

>
>At the current exchange rate, an AU$ is $0.761 USD, so AU $40 per kilo
>works out to about $13.84 USD per lb. For my 140 lb excess weight in
>checked baggage, it would come to $1,973 USD, which would have been
>more than 4 times the cost of the ticket.


Is it really 40 a kilo or 40 a bag? That would make them more money
grubbing than Ryan Air or Easy.

I seem to remember 40 a bag earlier this year.

>
>I don't care WHAT you call them, but I ain't paying no 20 black LAS
>"dimes" to any airline for excess checked baggage!
>
>-- Bob.


--
dillon

Pain is Nature's way of saying "that was stupid"
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  #43  
Old 08-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Reef Fish
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy


Dillon Pyron wrote:
> Thus spake "Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> :
>
> >
> >Jer wrote:
> >> Reef Fish wrote:
> >> > Jer wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Reef Fish wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Greg Mossman wrote:

>
> <snip>
>
> >> AU$40/kilo? That does seem excessive, but if I gotta go, I gotta go.

> >
> >At the current exchange rate, an AU$ is $0.761 USD, so AU $40 per kilo
> >works out to about $13.84 USD per lb. For my 140 lb excess weight in
> >checked baggage, it would come to $1,973 USD, which would have been
> >more than 4 times the cost of the ticket.

>
> Is it really 40 a kilo or 40 a bag? That would make them more money
> grubbing than Ryan Air or Easy.
>
> I seem to remember 40 a bag earlier this year.


Dillon, you should know better than that! Just go to the Qantas page:

> Kilograms in excess of the free baggage allowance are multiplied by
> the applicable zonal rate.

Zone Mileage Rates per Kilogram
Zone 5 7001 to 9000 A$40
Zone 6 9001 and over A$40

-- Bob.

> >
> >I don't care WHAT you call them, but I ain't paying no 20 black LAS
> >"dimes" to any airline for excess checked baggage!
> >
> >-- Bob.

>
> --
> dillon
>
> Pain is Nature's way of saying "that was stupid"


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  #44  
Old 08-10-2005, 05:30 PM
Scott
 
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Default Re: OT: Tips on Lost Wages (was Re: New Continental international baggage policy)


"Alan Street" <agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:100820051233086321%agstreet@nonono_san.rr.com ...

> ? Bob babbled


> ? Now make yourself scarce, and babble in those OT threads in
> ? which I do not engage in, because I choose not to engage in
> ? because I have nothing I wish to contribute.


> You're learning.


Careful, you'll soon regret that.


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  #45  
Old 08-10-2005, 05:53 PM
Ross Garrett
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy


"chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
news:h1rKe.178072$s54.30816@pd7tw2no...
>
> "Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:IAnKe.7$ii3.2958@news.uswest.net...


> It shouldn't be that difficult for you to understand that honest inquiry
> is
> not the same as "smart-assed intent".


I'll take that to mean you didn't reach a point of comprehension.

> I'm still waiting to hear how you plan to get your overweight bags through
> without paying the airline extra, at the new self-check-in counters,
> merely
> by tipping a skycap.


By checking myself and bags with the Skycap at curbside.

> I'm also curious about this practice you have of giving your passport (ID)
> to a Skycap.


I don't know why. It is a fairly simple gesture they seem to immediately
understand. And I believe research has shown we, and those before us, have
been doing this type of activity, with all different types of objects, since
the predecessors of the human race developed thumbs.

> How does that work when the attendant checks the passport?


I could care less what the "attendant" does because unless they are outside
grabbing a smoke, I don't see them and they don't look at my passport.

> Does he look over his shoulder and point at you, thereby distracting the
> attendant as he sneaks your bags onto the conveyor belt without them being
> weighed?


You're being dopey again. Go back and rethink what it means, and how it
happens, when one checks in at curbside.

> When was the last time you flew and was it an international flight?


Oh, so you think you've found a gaping hole in my suggestion to check
international bags at curbside....do ya? Think a little longer and maybe,
but I wouldn't bet on it, you'll understand where the loopholes for
international baggage check-in rules for US origination, US arrival and US
carriers anywhere in the world generally occur.






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  #46  
Old 08-10-2005, 06:26 PM
Jack Sloan
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy


"Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZOtKe.61$ii3.9636@news.uswest.net...
>
> "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
> news:h1rKe.178072$s54.30816@pd7tw2no...
> >
> > "Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:IAnKe.7$ii3.2958@news.uswest.net...

>
> > It shouldn't be that difficult for you to understand that honest inquiry


Don't know if it's relevant to this conversation, But in Houston at the
intercontinental airport you can no longer check your bag at curbside for
Continental intercontinental flights...making the point moot.
Jack


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  #47  
Old 08-10-2005, 06:29 PM
Jack Sloan
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy


"Jack Sloan" <jqsloan@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:kiuKe.4592$0d.815@trnddc06...
>
> "Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZOtKe.61$ii3.9636@news.uswest.net...
> >
> > "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
> > news:h1rKe.178072$s54.30816@pd7tw2no...
> > >
> > > "Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:IAnKe.7$ii3.2958@news.uswest.net...

> >
> > > It shouldn't be that difficult for you to understand that honest

inquiry
>
> Don't know if it's relevant to this conversation, But in Houston at the
> intercontinental airport you can no longer check your bag at curbside for
> Continental intercontinental flights...making the point moot.
> Jack
>

Perhaps I should have said international flights.
Jack


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  #48  
Old 08-10-2005, 07:10 PM
Ross Garrett
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy


"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> "Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:QnqKe.31$ii3.5982@news.uswest.net...


>> No, that's according to your insufficient understanding of what I wrote,
>> your brilliant dopiness or your solidarity with chilly. I never said you
>> hand him the money when you hand him the ID/ticket. I said you have it in
>> the same hand you use to give him the ticket and ID.

>
> I see.


Not according to your following comment you don't.

> Let's see how this works.


Let's not. You're just making excuses now for not understanding what was a
fairly simple and understandable comment.

> I usually play the "flash the big money at the skycap" game too,


I've noticed...that comes across so clearly in all your comments about
holding oney in the same hand I use to hand over the passport and ID.

> though I use different hands because it's more practical.


"obviously"...it is much more practical to hold both hands above the top of
a high desk. And it looks far less conspicuous as well.

> It obviously didn't work in this case. I guess I'll try the same hand
> sleight of hand next time.


Hey, let's agree you either didn't show enough money, or he didn't see the
other hand...as practical as it was to hold the money in it.

>> Let me recap and quote: "same hand you use to hand your ID and
>> ticket/reservation". Do you see any words in there that even imply you
>> hand
>> him the money along with your ticket and ID?

>
> Same hand obviously implies it.


How can you tell when a lawyer is lying?

> The other implication, that you stand around with the bill in your hand
> after he's taken the documents


That is precisely what I do. The point is he knows how much and he knows it
is out.

> is just too ridiculous


No, ridiculous is being dragged inside and paying weight charges because you
couldn't, wouldn't make it clear you would pay him for passing your bags
thru.

> and I didn't take you for a silly guy. I guess I was wrong.


What happens when a lawyer takes Viagra?

>> The fact that he carted you to a scale gives some indication he didn't
>> think
>> you were going to give him anything worthwhile. Maybe it was your "dopey"
>> look. Or maybe it was the fact that you didn't show him your intended tip
>> for the service you might need.

>
> Since I did the latter, it must have been my "dopey" look, while you
> hopping around with your bill in your hand, waving it in the skycap's face
> like you're giving a dog a treat, don't look dopey at all.


Ah, come on. That's pathetic. Are you really at that much of a loss in this
argument that your left with making things up.

> Or it could just be their policy and perhaps the airline doesn't
> appreciate that they take bribes to get around it. Maybe he's had baggage
> refused before by the airline and he had to pay the $25 charge out of the
> $10 or $20 that some dopey gave gave him and he doesn't want to get burned
> again.


Your crying just a bit here, and I don't like it.

> Perhaps he believes his normal work is to cart the bags for the customer
> and allow him to avoid lines inside the airport,


Yeah, you've convinced me that a guy assigned to check-in travelers and
bags at the curbside kiosk, where he has people standing in line with tips
in their hands, believes his job is to leave it and run around the airport
soliciting people to let him cart their bags. Of course, why didn't I think
of that?

> but he doesn't believe his job is to contravent airline baggage policies.


Of course he doesn't. He isn't out there to make tips...after all he is paid
extremely well by the hour....$ 3.15 per. That kind of money is all it takes
to develop the unrelenting loyalty you discovered in your side trip to the
inside counter.

> What's next, do you tip the TSA guy a $50 and he lets you bring your gun
> on the plane?


You're whining again....and I still don't like it.

>> Nah, I don't think he looked at you and thought there was any possibility
>> whatsoever you were going to supplement his day's income to the tune of
>> an
>> extra $ 20. Instead it seems like he might have been out to "get" you.
>> Maybe
>> he thought you were an "ass".

>
> Now you're confusing me again. Ass or dope, which is it?


I don't know...we'd have to check with this imaginary, loyal,
straight-arrow, Skycap. For myself...you copped to "dopey" so I accepted
that at face value. I can go with "dopey ass" if you'd like.

> That used to work with cops too, and maybe it still does in certain
> jurisdictions. Nowadays, most bureaus have cleaned up and they'll ignore
> the $100 you pass over with your driver's license or possibly arrest you
> for attempted bribery. Heck, most Vegas shows won't even let you tip the
> host for a better seat. Obviously skycaps are cleaning up their act too.
> The next time I see some dopey-looking guy getting carted away by airline
> security for attempting to induce a skycap into defrauding the airline,
> I'll yell "Ross!" and see if it's you.


How does a pregnant women know she is carrying a future lawyer?


....


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  #49  
Old 08-10-2005, 07:20 PM
Ross Garrett
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy


"Jack Sloan" <jqsloan@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZOtKe.61$ii3.9636@news.uswest.net...
>>
>> "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
>> news:h1rKe.178072$s54.30816@pd7tw2no...
>> >
>> > "Ross Garrett" <frederickrossgarrett@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:IAnKe.7$ii3.2958@news.uswest.net...

>>
>> > It shouldn't be that difficult for you to understand that honest
>> > inquiry

>
> Don't know if it's relevant to this conversation, But in Houston at the
> intercontinental airport you can no longer check your bag at curbside for
> Continental intercontinental flights


Yes, that's a TSA rule at every airport departing the US and every flight
returning to the US. I alluded to in the last paragraph of my previous post.


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Old 08-10-2005, 08:16 PM
Dan Bracuk
 
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Default Re: New Continental international baggage policy

"Reef Fish" <Large_Nassau_Grouper@Yahoo.com> pounded away at his
keyboard resulting in:

:
:Ross Garrett wrote:
:> "chilly" <slarson@shaw.canada> wrote in message
:> news:_BcKe.162620$5V4.157726@pd7tw3no...
:>
:>
:> I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. I simply responded with the same
:> smart-assed intent you first exhibited.
:
:
:Ross, I had told you before that you're a very perceptive man! I
:didn't see your conversation, but I trust you had her sized up
erfectly.
:
:chilly is ALWAYS a smart-ass, like several of her Dysfunctional Gang
als, such as Alan Street. <Note to Alan: PLEASE put me in your
:killfile. Else, DON'T cite the part of this post that
:includes chilly and DING DONG -- just to bring them out behind
:your noisy bark> ... at any rate ... there are folks here who
:who have a one-link smart ass follow-up to my post, but cite
:my ENTIRE post, to bring out the expected BLIND OSTRICHES
:because they would have read my post or part of my post SECOND
:hand ... to join the smart-ass in a chorus of caccaphonic noise.
:
:Since I had clubbed her so hard on the head with whatever she
:deserved, she has joined Mr. DING DONG Bell in putting me on
:their killfiles.
:
:Hallelujah, rec.scuba has been MUCH better off since.
:
:Now if you can make her put YOU in her killfile, than your
roblems are over. She never has anything useful to contribute
:in any rec.scuba.* discussions anyway, other than "smart-assed"
:intent and remarks.
:
:This is ANOTHER orientation Public Service Announcement for
:new comers to rec.scuba.* who have substance to contribute to
:SCUBA discussions.
:
:-- Bob.

Like this?

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