30-year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:36:29 -0700, Greg Mossman <mossman@qnet.com>
wrote:

> So which one of the four conservative rich white guys are you rooting
> for, the corrupt pro-choice Italian, the flip-flopping Mormon, the
> Arizona guy running for his 15th time or so, or the guy who plays a
> real politician on TV?

Here's a nice review of them:
http://www.gunowners.org/pres08/index.html

From Huckabee's page, he doesn't look that bad... If he wasn't from
Arkansas, he would be better though...

On Oct 12, 1:53 pm, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 4:05 pm, RecScubaPoster <recscubapos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 1:56 pm, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 12, 12:20 pm, RecScubaPoster <recscubapos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 10, 10:45 am, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Oct 9, 11:33 pm, RecScubaPoster <recscubapos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > 30-year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War
>
> > > > > >http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261
>
> > > > > Your math is a bit off. Aug. 4, 1964 was more than 40 years ago....
>
> > > > > gc
>
> > > > It's the title of an article fuckwit.
>
> > > It's also the subject matter of your post. You chose that after
> > > posting an article that is 13 years old. What was the point?
>
> > > Don't get me wrong, I happen to be one who is appalled by the Tonkin
> > > lie and everything that followed, but I fail to see the point or
> > > context of this posting at this time. You might just as well have
> > > posted something about Custer's stupidity at Little Big Horn.
>
> > > gc
>
> > Your inability to place it the context of current events doesn't
> > surprise
> > me one little bit fuckwit.
>
> Look, genius, you are the one who posted the link to a 13 year old
> article, titled your post "30-Year Anniversary" and made no comment
> about it. I can see the context very clearly, probably better than you
> can. I also happen to be very opposed to the current war. And I'm
> embarrassed by anonymous little tourette's patients like you. I guess
> you would be the left's version of scott.
>
> gc

Oh goodie, more cheap shots from the cheap seats.

It's Scott, asshole.

And "Carl" doesn't have the balls to use his real name.

I pegged you dead on long ago.

On Oct 12, 1:56 pm, "chilly" <slar...@shaw.canada> wrote:
> "George Cathcart" <george.cathc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192222437.727942.187200@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Look, genius, you are the one who posted the link to a 13 year old
> > article, titled your post "30-Year Anniversary" and made no comment
> > about it. I can see the context very clearly, probably better than you
> > can. I also happen to be very opposed to the current war. And I'm
> > embarrassed by anonymous little tourette's patients like you. I guess
> > you would be the left's version of scott.
>
> Certainly the same vocubulary and temperment.

Another cheapo drive by.

You people are simply amazing.

In article <1192340705.377730.295640@v23g2000prn.googlegroups .com>,
mossman@qnet.com says...
-On Oct 13, 6:03 pm, "Scott" <pugetsounddi...@gmail.com> wrote:
-
-> What this clearly indicates is that our media and our liberal
-> politicians pick and choose, and they tend to present only those facts
-> that support their agenda driven reporting.
-
-Exactly.
-
-For instance, look at Table 6 in your cite(http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/
-natsec/RL32492.pdf)
-
-It shows number of wounded from Operation Oil Freedom at 23,417, and
-number of amputations at 472. In the Korean War, there were 103,284
-wounded and 1,477 amputations. Therefore we've already run up a fifth
-of the wounded toll and a fourth of the amputation toll of the entire
-Korean War. And that was a real war.

actually, no. it was a police action.

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--
Bob Crownfield
crownfield@verizon.net

On Oct 14, 4:20 pm, crownfield <crownfi...@verizon.net> wrote:
> In article <1192340705.377730.295...@v23g2000prn.googlegroups .com>,
> moss...@qnet.com says...
> -On Oct 13, 6:03 pm, "Scott" <pugetsounddi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> -
> -> What this clearly indicates is that our media and our liberal
> -> politicians pick and choose, and they tend to present only those facts
> -> that support their agenda driven reporting.
> -
> -Exactly.
> -
> -For instance, look at Table 6 in your cite(http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/
> -natsec/RL32492.pdf)
> -
> -It shows number of wounded from Operation Oil Freedom at 23,417, and
> -number of amputations at 472. In the Korean War, there were 103,284
> -wounded and 1,477 amputations. Therefore we've already run up a fifth
> -of the wounded toll and a fourth of the amputation toll of the entire
> -Korean War. And that was a real war.
>
> actually, no. it was a police action.

Sure it was. Lots of police served in that war. Firemen too.

On Oct 14, 5:25 pm, pugetsounddi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 12, 1:53 pm, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 4:05 pm, RecScubaPoster <recscubapos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 12, 1:56 pm, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 12, 12:20 pm, RecScubaPoster <recscubapos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Oct 10, 10:45 am, George Cathcart <george.cathc...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Oct 9, 11:33 pm, RecScubaPoster <recscubapos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > 30-year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War
>
> > > > > > >http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261
>
> > > > > > Your math is a bit off. Aug. 4, 1964 was more than 40 years ago....
>
> > > > > > gc
>
> > > > > It's the title of an article fuckwit.
>
> > > > It's also the subject matter of your post. You chose that after
> > > > posting an article that is 13 years old. What was the point?
>
> > > > Don't get me wrong, I happen to be one who is appalled by the Tonkin
> > > > lie and everything that followed, but I fail to see the point or
> > > > context of this posting at this time. You might just as well have
> > > > posted something about Custer's stupidity at Little Big Horn.
>
> > > > gc
>
> > > Your inability to place it the context of current events doesn't
> > > surprise
> > > me one little bit fuckwit.
>
> > Look, genius, you are the one who posted the link to a 13 year old
> > article, titled your post "30-Year Anniversary" and made no comment
> > about it. I can see the context very clearly, probably better than you
> > can. I also happen to be very opposed to the current war. And I'm
> > embarrassed by anonymous little tourette's patients like you. I guess
> > you would be the left's version of scott.
>
> > gc
>
> Oh goodie, more cheap shots from the cheap seats.

I bet I paid as much for my seat as you did for yours.

>
> It's Scott, asshole.

You left out "aka"
>


gc

"Scott" <pugetsounddiver@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in

>> Good luck with the election.
>
> I cant wait.
>
> Wonder what they'll blame it on this time...

They'll petrify, or supernova...

"charleykeys syndrome"...

"Greg Mossman" <mossman@qnet.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 14, 2:55 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
>> Thanks for pointing out that we've got 80% less casualties than an
>> excursion that was half as long.
>
> But that was a real war. We're not fighting anyone in Iraq now.

Brilliant psywar.

They're killing each other at breakneck speed.

Better 'n free beer.

>The war part is over, Bush declared victory, we got Saddam.

Like he said, yup.

> And they've
> stressed over and over again there's no civil war going on, just a
> little bit of insurgency. We're merely occupiers of occupied
> territory, dying for the "cause" whatever that is.
>
>> Good luck with the election.
>
> Thanks. Congratulations on your fellow Tennesseean winning the Peace
> Prize.


Like Arafat, right?

"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Popeye@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:

> Better 'n free beer.

When's the next time you're going come over and get some?

On Oct 15, 8:19 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192378536.418840.196020@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > On Oct 14, 2:55 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
>
> >> Thanks for pointing out that we've got 80% less casualties than an
> >> excursion that was half as long.
>
> > But that was a real war. We're not fighting anyone in Iraq now.
>
> Brilliant psywar.
>
> They're killing each other at breakneck speed.

They're getting better at what they do and they're recruiting more and
more anti-Americans each day. If Bush's purpose in invading Iraq was
to sustain world terrorism sufficiently to keep the money flowing into
his supporters' coffers, he did a great job.

> Better 'n free beer.

Unfortunately it ain't free. Bush's little war to promote terrorism
has cost us patriotic taxpayers hundreds of billions, going on a
trillion. So much for Social Security. We should send our future
retirees to Iraq where it's nice and sunny - they sure won't be able
to afford Scottsdale or Boca.

> > Thanks. Congratulations on your fellow Tennesseean winning the Peace
> > Prize.
>
> Like Arafat, right?

What do you expect from a guy who made his money blowing stuff up?